Mormons On TV MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary “The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO” Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

Glenn Beck A Mormon On TV MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary "The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO" Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.


CONTACT:  October 2009


A Deception, Mormons Aren’t Christians, They Don’t Believe In The Bible, That Jesus Is God, Simply The Mormons Are A Fanatical Cult, Demonic.

If I were to say to you that my ancestors came from another "planet." What would you think?

Probably, in all likelihood, you would think I was somewhat crazy.

Then, if I was to go even further and say, that my ancestors even brought their wives from other planets here, along with plants and animals… I think after saying that, that you, would be wanting to get away from me as quickly as you could.

This is, but a very small part of the history, of yet another cult, named the Mormons. In light of these two, aforementioned ridiculous statements, it’s no wonder, that the gullibility of those then, to believe that ones eternal destiny would be found under a rock, by a unbeliever, posing as some sort of a Christian, Joseph Smith.

Mike Guthrie, a St. Charles Missouri policeman, said this and much more, I raised my hand and asked, how could you believe what they were telling you, he said, "the indoctrination started as a child in the Mormon Temple." 

Mike shared this, and much more of his firsthand experience, to us at this local inter denominational church in St. Charles Missouri, about being raised a Mormon.

Attending their university and after graduation, this born and raised Mormon meet his future to be wife, who was a Christian, and over and extended period of time, she was able to get Mike to think and rationalize by himself again.

Slow, but surely, he began weening off of this powerful demonic force, that like other cults, had an absolute mind control over it’s followers.

An interesting question could be pose, why does Glenn Beck manipulate conservatives through his TV show?

He could well talk the same things to wards the Liberals. He could gain their support simply by turning the focus to wards the Conservatives. Why doesn’t he do that? is it because he thinks that the Conservatives are morally on higher ground?

Again within these blocs I have written on Liberals, and they are not to be faulted, nor the Conservatives, it’s simply the people, who twist and turn everything, until what was a valid political view, is awash with corruption by those who have corrupted the system.

Mormons believe they are superior to all others, they firmly believe the "Mormon Temple," is the only true religious system. Again, why does Glenn Beck reach out to conservatives? My opinion is that, he knows that they are more gullible than the others. He can prevail by using common buzzwords, words common to Christians. He intends to make millions, and then, he will very subtlety lead those, who are disenfranchised with Christendom, and begin the slow process of indoctrination into the Mormon cult. They are in this to gain the political control.


In light of todays extreme religious wars, and especially those committing suicide, their promised reward is, that when they die, they will have all of the women they desire, in this so-called heavenly paradise, that the Muslim clerics espouse. 


As with all heathens, atheist, and infidels, including Mormons, there’s one common thread that ties them all together "SEX!" and that is, in all vileness, and their debased attitudes, toward all of the Christian Bible Doctrines.

First, this infidels, these unbelievers, this non Christians, these atheist, these cults, those that reject Christ as the only way of Salvation, they will rail against the Christian doctrines of the Christian Bible.

There is no sin, and man’s success’ and pleasures, are to be exalted.

The Mormons teach that Jesus was married three times, to different women, and had children, thus, the Mormons state that Jesus gives the example of POLYGAMY, as a common Mormon practice.

The Mormons are a cult, they are lead by a demonic spirit under Satan. They are not Christian.

There is an abundance of other first hand information on those who where able to break free of Mormon control on the Internet.

On to another cult activity:

Now, today, there is one on TV, on a favorite conservative station, his name is Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck states, that he is a Mormon, yet, when you listen to him, you think he is a normal kind of guy, that believes in God and country, and apple pie. You would think he’s just an ordinary Christian. Which is absolutely false.

The Mormons believe they are the true church, none other. They do not believe in the basic doctrines of the Bible, they created their own Book of Mormon,which is  utter rubbish.

Those who profess to be Christian are those who follow the teachings of Christ and the Apostles.

Mormons do not believe in the Trinity, three in one person. They don’t accept Jesus as the way of Salvation. They do not believe in Christ’s Redemption. They don’t accept the Christian Bible, as being from God, and, as the only true word of God.

Mormons are basically lead by an Anti Christ Spirit, readers it’s not necessary for you to agree with any thing I say, however, it will only take you minute to read from their own writings and experiences, what they believe, and it is Anti Bible! 

As a Christian missionary, I can speak to the truth, the Mormons do not believe the Bible, they unequivocally, and categorical deny the Christian held beliefs about God, as revealed in the Christian Bible. they believe they will become "God" when they die, that is if they are married in the Mormon Temple.

It’s all rubbish, absolute rubbish.


I had written previously about the deception of the Rev. Wright, who isn’t a Christian. I had described where his racists theology roots came from, as well as many other theologies.

When I meet people like him, or other cults like the Mormons, or those people who have been part of their congregation for years, there is a methodology to them all. They, these racists, these heathen, these non Christian Bible believers, all know the right words to say to others, they give the common phrases, that are familiar to Christians.

Leading one to believe that they, at least on the surface,  that they, are like them, thus, gaining their confidence. Thus, only to exploit them, for their own gain eventually. They will use them, and yet, return time, and time again, saying the same comforting phrases, to once again, gain these unsuspecting fellows good will.

 These false professor of Christianity, along with other cults, believe also, as that of the cultic Mormon Temple Doctrines, in that, being a "Mormon, is to achieve all that you can on the earth, for your earthly, worldly achievements, will gain you a higher privileged place in their Celestial Kingdom. 

Rev. Robert Hall writes about the infidels, those, that don’t believe in the God of the Christian Bible.

His points to several sins of these atheist, these unbelievers, in a sermon he wrote in the past, a couple points I

want to draw your attention to. "Vanity" and "Pride."

Rev. Robert Hall writes in part on VANITY and PRIDE.

…Revelation, by displaying the true character of God, affords a pure and perfect standard of virtue; heathenism, one in many respects defective and vicious; the fashionable skepticism of the present day, which excludes the belief of all superior powers, affords no standard at all. Human nature knows nothing better or higher than itself. All above and around it being shrouded in darkness, and the prospect confined to the tame realities of life, virtue has no room up wards to expand; nor are any excursions permitted into that unseen world, the true element of the great and good, by which it is fortified with motives equally calculated to satisfy the reason, to delight the fancy, and to impress the heart.

2. Modern infidelity not only tends to corrupt the moral taste; it also promotes the growth of those vices which are the most hostile to social happiness.

Of all the vices incident to human nature, the most destructive to society are vanity, ferocity, and unbridled sensuality ; and these are precisely the vices which infidelity is calculated to cherish.

That the love, fear, and habitual contemplation of a Being infinitely exalted, or, in other words, devotion, is adapted to promote a sober and moderate estimate of our own excellencies, is incontestable; nor is it less evident that the exclusion of such sentiments must be favorable to pride.


The criminality of pride will, perhaps, be less readily admitted; for though there is no vice so opposite to the spirit of Christianity, yet there is none which, even in the Christian world, has, under various pretenses, been treated with so much indulgence.

There is, it will be confessed, a delicate sensibility to character, a sober desire of reputation, a wish to possess the esteem of the wise and good, felt by the purest minds, which is at the farthest remove from arrogance or vanity. The humility of a noble mind scarcely dares to approve of itself, until it has secured the approbation of others. Very different is that restless desire of distinction, that passion for theatrical display, which inflames the heart and occupies the whole attention of vain men. This, of all the passions, is the most unsocial, avarice itself not excepted. The reason is plain. Property is a kind of good which may be more easily attained, and is capable of more minute subdivisions than fame. .

In the pursuit of wealth, men are led by an attention to their own interest to promote the welfare of each other; their advantages are reciprocal; the benefits which each is anxious to acquire for himself he reaps in the greatest abundance from the union and conjunction of society.

The pursuits of vanity are quite contrary. The portion of time and attention man find are willing to spare from their avocations and pleasures to devote to the admiration of each other is so small, that every successful adventurer is felt to have impaired the common stock.

The success of one is the disappointment of multitudes.

For though there be many rich, many virtuous, many wise men, fame must necessarily be the portion of but few.

Hence every vain man, every man in whom vanity is the ruling passion, regarding his rival as his enemy, is strongly tempted to rejoice in his miscarriage, and repine at his success.

Besides, as the passions are seldom seen in a simple, unmixed state, so vanity, when it succeeds, degenerates into arrogance.; when it is disappointed, (and it is often disappointed,) it is exasperated into malignity, and corrupted into envy.

In this stage the vain man commences a determined misanthropist. (A person who expects only the worst from people: cynic)

He detests that excellence which he cannot reach.

He detests his species, and longs to be revenged for the unpardonable injustice he has sustained in their insensibility to his merits.

He lives upon the calamities of the world; the vices and miseries of men are his element and his food.

Virtues, talents, and genius, are his natural enemies, which he persecutes with instinctive eagerness and unrelenting hostility.

There are who doubt the existence of such a disposition; but it certainly issues out of the dregs of disappointed vanity : a disease which taints and vitiates the whole character wherever it prevails.

It forms the heart to such a profound indifference to the welfare of others, that, whatever appearances he may assume, or however wide the circle of his seeming virtues may extend, you will infallibly find the vain man is his own centre.

Attentive only to himself, absorbed in the contemplation of his own perfections, instead of feeling tenderness for his fellow-creatures as members of the same family, as beings with whom he is appointed to act, to suffer, and to sympathize; he considers life as a stage on which he is performing a part, and mankind in no other light than spectators.

Whether he smiles or frowns whether his path is adorned with the rays of beneficence, or his steps are dyed in blood, an attention to self is the spring of every movement, and the jnotive to which every action is referred. 

 N. Oetker

In closing, for those who watch Glenn Beck, though he’s clever and witty, yet, one needs to remember, he believes his ancestors came from another planet….ummm…ummm….ummm maybe from.. "obamaworld."   Don't tell anyone

All jokes aside, Christians be aware, He doesn’t believe in any of the things of Christianity, nor, does He accept the Bible, as God’s Word to man.

Glenn Beck has another agenda! the recruitment to the Mormon Temple, to the unsuspecting, he, Glenn Beck, either is a willing participant, with this Mormon Temple Cult, or, as he says about the President, that he, Glenn Beck, is surrounding around himself, these non Christian, mind controlling, demonic cult  members, from the Mormon Temple.

Missionary Norm 

Mormons On TV MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary "The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO" Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US. 

Jehovah Witnesses MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary “The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO” Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

 Jehovah Witness MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary "The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO" Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.


CONTACT:  October 2009

October 2009, there are many false cults in the world today. The JW’s are here in force, in Reynosa Mexico.
They’re preyed upon by those from the states, who, for the most part have a educational advantage.
These are good people here, as in other parts of the world, who have had, for the most part,
a negative experience in the past, with religion.


These, like so many others, are also, simply the lost, these, are those, that we, as Christians, are also obligated, to share the truth in Christ with.

I have decided to include in this article, a copy from another site, showing just how things are changed, in their bible, through the manipulation of God’s Word, the Christian Bible.

Now, to go toe to toe with a J.W. on scripture, is a very tiresome ordeal. You’ll soon find, that they have a very set way, to their madness.

They use the same scriptures over and over. The scriptures that they use, aren’t exactly correct, they are in fact, incorrect, and thus, they introduce a "lie,"as you will see below.

Howbeit, the point I want to leave you with is this, you must asked them about different scriptures as they are talking, you must inject, into their mantras, with your questions, in regards to other related scriptures, you must continually force those- that are involved in this erroneous, false doctrine to “Think!”

To think for themselves AGAIN! The mind control, that is exerted over them, can be broken, by asking them question, on a whole host of issues, family, friends, doctrines. And, that, they, through time, and patience must regain the capacity to think independently for themselves, and when they do, that is when the mind control will be lessened. They then will reach a point, that the realization, that they have in fact, been under the control, of a control group.

This technique will work on the Christian, as well as a non Christians.

In the end, it’s our own free will, deciding the course for each of us though.

Below are some of the changes that the JW’s made, as you know, they have written their own bible. When reading through these changes below, you will then see, their false doctines plainly. Why?

Why do people go into cults, the naked truth is, when you peel everything away, it is that they enjoy "sin,"and it’s short lived pleasures. 

Rather than to have, "Holiness and Truth," to the only true God, and His Salvation, through "Jesus." This Salvation is for all of mankind, delivered by the Holy Spirit, which is revealed in the Chrstian Bible as the only plan, the only way to Salvation.  Salvation is for man, to be reconciled to God, through "Jesus,"and Calvary’s Cross. The Only Way Of Salavtion.

People enjoy the pleasures of sin.

Missionary Norm

First and most obviously to anyone who has looked at the NWT is the appearance of JEHOVAH in the NT portion over two hundred times where the Greek text has KURIOS (LORD). The second way in which the NWT has systematically abused the divine names or titles is in its handling of text in which Jesus is called God (Isa 9:6; John 1:1,18; 20:28; Rom 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8; 2 Peter 1:1; 1 John 5:20; Acts 20:28), of these, the NWT translates four so that Jesus is not called God at all (Rom 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8; 2 Peter 1:1), and two so that he is "A god" or "god" (John 1:1, 18). The remaining three texts (Isa 9:6; John 20:28; 1 John 5:20), are not mistranslated, but are interpreted so that either Jesus is not called God at all or he is called God only in a lesser sense. In short, wherever possible, the NWT translates texts that call Jesus God in such a way as to keep the text from making that identification!

Genesis 1:2

"Spirit of God" changed to "God’s active force."

The revision modifies the original noun with a more impersonal form as the JWs reject the orthodox Christian belief in the personality of the Holy Spirit.

Exodus 3:14

"I am" changed to "I shall prove to be."

The revision clouds the connection between God’s self proclaimed title and Jesus’ proclamation of being the same in John 8:58, as the JW rejects the deity of Jesus.

Numbers 1:52

"Under his own standard" changed to "by his [three-tribe] division."

The Hebrew word degal translated as "standard" literally means flag or banner. Since the JWs regard saluting a flag as an act of idolatry, the text has been altered according to their doctrinal bias. (Same revision found in Num. 2:2, 3, 10, 18, 25; 10: 14, 18, 22, 25.)

Isaiah 43:10

"Nor will there be one after me" changed to "after me there continued to be none."

The original future tense of the verb indicates that there will never be another being sharing in God’s divinity. The altered tense suggests credibility to the JW doctrine of Jesus’ becoming a "mighty god" while still being less than Jehovah in nature. (See the John 1: I discussion below for another expression of this JW distortion.)

Ecclesiastes 12:7

"The spirit returns" changed to "the spirit itself returns."

The passage indicates the return of a human spirit to God after death. Since the JWs believe in an unconscious state after death, "itself’ has been inserted to suggest a more impersonal reference to spirit.

Matthew 2:11

"Bowed down and worshipped him" changed to "did obeisance to it"

The JWs evade recognizing Jesus as worthy of worship as a divine being by altering the form of honor that he receives from men and angels. The Greek word proskuneo literally means "worship." The use of "obeisance" is a NWT adaptation. (Same revision found in Matt. 8:2; 9:18, 14:33; 15:25; 28:9, 17; Mark 5:6; 15:19; Luke 24:52; John 9:38; Heb. 1:6.)

Matthew 5:19

"Least in the kingdom of heaven" changed to "least in relation to the kingdom of the heaven."

The passage indicates that a disobedient believer who sins can still find forgiveness and eternal life. The JWs believe heaven is reserved for only 144,000 specially designated servants of God. The revision suggests more separation between these groups through a status hierarchy.

Matthew 25:46

"Eternal punishment" changed to "everlasting cutting-off."

The Greek word kolasis translated "punishment" indicates continuous torment, but the NWT revision suggests "termination," as the JWs promote the doctrine of annihilationism regarding condemned souls.

Mark 1:4

"Baptism of repentance" changed to "baptism [in symbol] of repentance. "

Nothing in the original Greek text justifies the insertion of "in symbol." The revision undermines the significance of John the Baptist’s ministry, the Jewish meaning of baptism and the Christian sacrament of baptism in contrast to the more regimented JW baptism requirements.

Luke 12:8

"Acknowledges me" changed to "confesses union with me."

The addition of "union" suggest something more than what the original Greek actually states and adds further credibility to the NWT distortion presented in John 6:56 below.

Luke 23:43

‘Today you will be with me" changed to "I tell you today, You will be with me."

Jesus assured the thief on the cross that their spirits would soon enter the spiritual/heavenly realm together. As the JWs reject the belief in the conscious survival of the human spirit after death, their revision suggests that "today" deals with the time of the statement rather than the relocation of their spirits.

John 1:1

"Word was God" changed to "Word was a god."

The JWs reject the orthodox Christian belief in the deity of Jesus. The revision asserts that Jesus was someone other than God Himself.

John 1:12

"Believe" changed to "exercise faith."

The orthodox Christian doctrine of spiritual justification and rebirth before God by belief in Jesus is in conflict with the JW doctrine of salvation by works (i.e., obedience to their organization). The revision attempts to describe salvation as a continuous process rather than a radical encounter and transition (Same revision found in John 3:16, 18; 6:29; Rom. 4:3, 10:4, 9, 10.)

John 6:56

"Remains in me" changed to "remains in union with me."

The mystical union between the individual human spirit and the Spirit of Jesus is obscured by restructuring "in" with a compound form. The substitution implies more separation between a Christian and Jesus. (Same revision found in John 14:20; Rom. 8:1, 2, 10; 12:5; 2 Cor. 5:17; Gal. 3:28; Eph. 1:13*; 2:10, 13, 15, 21, 22; 3:6; Col. 1:14*, 16*, 27; 2:6, 10*, 11, 12*; 3:3; 1 Thes. 4:16; 5:18; 1 John 3:24; 4:4; 5:20. Verses with an asterisk (*) indicate where the revision uses "by means of" or "in relationship to" rather than "in union with.")

John 8:58

"I am" changed to "I have been."

Same intent as described in Exodus 3:14 above.

John 14:14

"IF YOU ask [me] anything in my name, I will do it."

"me" is omitted to deny the fact we pray to Jesus.

John 14:14

should also be mentioned. In the NWT this reads; "IF YOU ask anything in my name, I will do it." The Greek text in the KIT, however, has ME after ask, so that it should be translated; "If you ask ME anything in my name, I will do it." It is true that some later Greek manuscripts omitted this word, but most of the earlier ones include it, and most modern editions of the Greek NT include it. At the very least, the NWT ought to have mentioned this in a note!

John 14:17

"Beholds him or knows him" changed to "beholds it or knows it."

The revision ignores the context of the pronoun with the Comforter role in the preceding verse to deny the personality of the Holy Spirit.

John 17:5

"Glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you" changed to "glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you."

The original text reflects the shared deity of God the Father and Jesus before the creation of the world, but the revision suggests different natures as implied by different states of glory.

John 17:21

"Are in me" changed to "are in union with me."

The original statement by Jesus indicates his shared deity with the Father. The revision undermines this by suggesting a greater separation between them.

Acts 10:36

"Lord of all" changed to "Lord of all [others]."

The revision suggests that even though Jesus is highly honored, he is still one among many of God’s created beings. (Similar revisions found in Rom. 8:32; Phil. 2:9; Col. 1: 16-17.)

Acts 20:28

They change "God purchased the church with His own blood" to God purchased the church with the blood of His son"

Wrath and indignation will come to every Jw from the Governing Body, who even suggests God purchased the church with His own blood… the blood of Jesus… who is God!

Romans 2:29

"By the Spirit" changed to "by spirit."

Although the definite article ‘the" does not literally appear in the Greek, it is implied by the form that (pneuma) appears in. The revision, however, translates pneuma in a more abstract form to evade the reality of the Holy Spirit. (Same revision found in Rom. 15:19; Eph. 2:22; 3:5; Titus 3:5; James 2:26; 2 Peter 1:21.)

Rom 8:1

"Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation," Which omits the word NOW.

The NWT omits key words when to include them may contradict JW doctrine. The most glaring example is Rom 8:1 "Therefore those in union with Christ Jesus have no condemnation," Which omits the word NOW. This omission is evidently motivated by the fact that the JW’s do not believe anyone can claim NOW to be free of condemnation.

Romans 8:23a

"Have the firstfruits of the Spirit" changed to "have the firstfruits, namely the spirit."

This represents another form of disguising the separate personality of the Holy Spirit as in Rom. 2:29 above. The original text refers to the derivatives of the Spirit, but the revision identifies the spirit as a derivative.

Romans 8:23b

"The redemption of our bodies" changed to "the release from our bodies by ransom."

This revision avoids the suggestion that there is continuity of either body or soul after death. Their teaching that the soul ceases to exist at the death of the body precludes the ownership of, or relationship to, a body that must be redeemed.

Romans 8:28

"All things" changed to "all his works."

The revision undermines the sovereignty of God by suggesting that He controls only the things He is directly involved in doing. This implies that God does not work ALL things together for the good of those that love God, but only those things which he himself does, over which he has control.

Romans 8:29

"Those God foreknew" changed to "those whom he gave his first recognition."

The revision obscures the nature of God’s knowledge and power as a first recognition may or may not be foreknowledge.

Romans 9:5

"Christ, who is God over all, forever praised!" changed to "Christ, [sprang] according to the flesh: God who is over all, [be] blessed forever."

The direction proclamation that Christ is God is obscured by the altered text.

Romans 10:13

"Lord" changed to "Jehovah."

This revision obscures the fact that the Lord referred to in verse 13 is the same Lord called Jesus in verse 9. Since the JWs reject the deity of Jesus, the revision is made accordingly. The Greek word, kurios, translated "Lord" has been revised to "Jehovah" over 200 times in the NWT. The JWs insist that this is the only valid title for God, even though Greek-speaking Jews used "Lord" and "God" in place of "Yahweh" (the source of "Jehovah") throughout their Septuagint translation of the Old Testament. Furthermore, the Bible contains dozens of names for God other than Lord, Yahweh, or Jehovah.

Romans 13:1

"Authorities that exist have been established by God" changed to "authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God."

Since the JW regard saluting a flag, military service and similar forms of submission to government as idolatry, they have added words to the text to weaken the proclaimed authority of government.

1 Corinthians 6:19

"Your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit" changed to "the body of YOU people is [the] temple of the holy spirit."

To avoid recognition of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the individual believer, the revision modifies "body" to a more collective form in harmony with the opposing JW doctrine.

1 Corinthians 10:4

"The Rock was Christ" changed to "that rock-mass meant the Christ."

The passage depicts the preincarnate Jesus exhibiting his divine nature by being present many centuries earlier. This revision tries to conceal his eternal nature with a more figurative interpretation of "the Rock."

1 Corinthians 12:11

"As he determines" changed to "as it wills."

The NWT finds many ways to disguise the personality of the Holy Spirit. In this case the third person pronoun exercising individual conscience and will is replaced with an impersonal pronoun.

1 Corinthians 14:14-16

"Spirit" changed to "[gift of the] spirit."

Like several other Biblical passages, this one indicates the distinctive presence of the human spirit as distinguished from the mind and body. The JWs evade these distinctions and try to disguise them with related revisions.

The phrase GIFT OF THE is added in brackets five times, changing "SPIRIT" to "[GIFT OF THE] SPIRIT." The NWT elsewhere frequently paraphrases the simple word SPIRIT, especially when referring to the immaterial aspect of human nature, to avoid the implication that such a spirit has a reality distinct from the body. For instance, Heb 12:19 "the Father of spirits" (or the spirits) becomes "the Father of OUR SPIRITUAL LIFE." In Gal. 6:18 "your spirit" is paraphrased "THE SPIRIT YOU SHOW." Similar rewording’s are introduced in passages where the simple translation of "spirit" or "Spirit" might imply that God’s Spirit is a person, contrary to the JW’s doctrine that the Holy Spirit is God’s "active force." So, Jude’s description of certain men as "not having the Spirit" (or more literally, not having spirit") is rendered "NOT HAVING SPIRITUALITY" (Jude 19).

1 Corinthians 15:2

"By this gospel you are saved" changed to "through which YOU are also being saved."

Similar to the Acts 16:30 revision above, this one again obscures the completeness of salvation by grace. The JW’s salvation exists as an extended process ("being saved") with the outcome being uncertain until final judgment before Jehovah.

Galatians 6:18

"Your spirit" changed to "the spirit YOU [show]."

Similar to the I Cor. 14 revision above, this one attempts to obscure the reality of the individual human spirit by presenting it more as an attitude of action than an entity.

Philippians 1:23

"To depart and be with Christ" changed to "the releasing and the being with Christ."

Paul’s eagerness indicates that the believer’s spirit goes immediately into Christ’s presence at death. The revision suggests that death and being with Christ are two separate steps in an extended process, as the JWs believe in soul sleep (i.e., the unconscious state of the human spirit awaiting the resurrection).

In Phil 1:23-24 several words are added without brackets that, along with some other changes, completely alter the structure and thereby also the meaning of the text. The passage reads in the NWT (with added words in brackets so you can see here) "I am under pressure from [THESE] two things; [BUT WHAT] I do desire is the releasing and the being with Christ, for this, [TO BE SURE], is far better." There are other errors as well, but the additions indicate here clearly change the meaning so as to avoid the test’s implication that Paul would be with Christ after death. Some of the additions in brackets in the NWT so clearly change the meaning it is a wonder that more JW’s don’t question them? In 1Cor 14:12-16 the phrase GIFT OF THE is added in brackets five times, changing "spirit" to "[GIFT OF THE] spirit." The result is that Paul’s contrast between his own personal "spirit" and his "mind" is removed. To assure that this contrast is missed, the word "MY" is also added in brackets before "MIND" twice in verse 15 but not before SPIRIT. Thus the simple contrast between "the spirit" and "the mind" (or "my spirit" and "my mind" NASB) is changed to "the [GIFT OF THE] spirit" and [MY] mind."

Phil 2:6

"Although Jesus existed in the form of God, He did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself" (He grasped equality and let it go to become a man) has been changed to "although Jesus was existing in God’s form, he gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God."

NWT teaches that Jesus was never equal with God nor did he ever grasp at it. Notice the word seizure, which implies grabbing that which is not yours to grab ie equality. If Jesus was created by God, why would He be considered humble for not thinking of himself as equal to God. That is not humility, but reality! However since Jesus was equal to God, it would require great humility to give up his status as God and become a man through Mary.

Col 1:16-20

the word "[other]" has been added 5 times where it is not in the Greek

Awful embarrassing for Jw’s to read this verse with the [other] removed. Why it would mean Jesus was not a creature but God. By adding "other" to "all other things" Jw’s attempt to avoid the obvious original intent of the Greek that Jesus is above all created things implying Jesus is not a creature!

The addition of the word OTHER is usually justified by an appeal to such texts as Luke 11:41-42 and Luke 13:2,4, where the word OTHER is also added after the word ALL. However, in these passages (and in others were the same practice is rightly followed) the addition of the word OTHER doesn’t change the meaning, but simply makes it read smoother. In Col 1:16-20, however, whether one adds "OTHER" makes a great deal of difference to the meaning! What is so often noticed is that the NWT does this same thing in several other passages as well (Acts 10:36; Rom 8:32; Phil 2:9). In Rom 8:32, the word OTHER is not even placed in brackets, contrary to the work’s stated practice. In all of these text, the intent seems to be to undermine the implication of the text that Jesus Christ is God.

Colossians 1:19

"His fullness" changed to "fullness."

The definite Greek article (to), translated "his," indicates that Jesus shares the Father’s divine nature as also shown in Col. 2:9. The revisions evade the truth by concealing the similarity of the two passages.

Also notable is Col 1:19 "because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him." Here the little word THE is omitted before FULLNESS. This is significant, because NWT renders "ALL FULLNESS" is ambiguous, whereas "ALL THE FULLNESS" clearly refers to the fullness of God’s own being (compare Col 2:9).

Col 2:6-12

Again, in Col 2:6-12 "IN HIM" and "IN WHOM" (en auto, en ho) becomes "IN UNION WITH HIM" (v.6) "IN HIM" (V.V. 7,9) "BY MEANS OF HIM" (V. 10) and "BY RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM" (V.V..11,12). These variations serve only JW doctrine! They have no other purpose, they undermine the unity of the passage, which is that Christian life consists solely of a supernatural relationship with God through faith in Christ. There are many other passages where IN is paraphrased to avoid the otherwise clear meaning of the text. For example, In Matt. 5:19 IN becomes "IN RELATION TO" so as to avoid the passages teaching that some who disobey the law’s commandments and teach others to do so will nevertheless be accepted "in the kingdom of heaven" (which JW’s believe will be restricted to the 144,000 special chosen and sanctified believers).

Colossians 2:9

"The fullness of deity" changed to "the fullness of the divine quality."

The Greek theotes, translated "deity," literally means divine essence or divinity. As the JWs reject the divine nature of Jesus, a revision is inserted to suggest that Jesus is limited to only divine-like characteristics.

I Timothy 4:1

"The Spirit" changed to "the inspired utterance."

This revision attempts to obscure the reality and activity of the Holy Spirit by representing it as a message instead of an entity. (Similar revisions found in 1 John 4:1, 3, 6 with "expression" being utilized in place of "utterance.") A straightforward "the SPIRIT says" would too obviously imply the personality of the "Spirit".

Titus 2:13

"Our great God and Savior Jesus Christ" changed to "the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus."

Similar to the Rom. 9:5 revision shown above, a distinct proclamation of Jesus as God is obscured by the altered text. (Similar rewording also found in 2 Peter 1:1.)

Hebrews 1:6

"But when He again brings his First-born into the inhabited earth, he says: ‘And let all God’s angels worship him’ ." (New World Translation, 1950, 1961, 1970 editions,

The NWT revised 1971 edition was changed to read, "do obeisance to" rather than "worship". This change remains to this day, even though the original word chosen by the 4 NWT translators, was accurate to the Greek. However the Watchtower society was losing so may new converts because of the word "worship" (only God gets worshipped) that they did the typically dishonorable thing and chose the obscure unknown word "obeisance" to complete the deception of new converts.

Hebrews 1:8

"Your throne, 0 God" changed to "God is your throne."

The revision avoids addressing the Son, Jesus, as God to validate the JWs’ rejection of his divine nature.

Hebrews 9:14

"The eternal Spirit" changed to "an everlasting spirit."

Similar to the Rom. 2:29 revision above, the switching of the article before the adjective represents the work of the Holy Spirit in a more indirect/ impersonal manner.

Hebrews 12:9

"Father of our spirits" changed to "Father of our spiritual life."

Similar to the I Cor. 14 revision shown above, this one tries to obscure the distinctive reality of human spirits by replacing them with a more abstract noun.

Hebrews 12:23

"The spirits of righteous men" changed to "the spiritual lives of righteous ones."

This revision represents the same noun-switching as described in Heb. 12:9 above.

Hebrews 12:28

"We are receiving a kingdom" changed to "we are to receive a kingdom."

An orthodox Christian understanding of the Kingdom recognizes it as primarily established through Jesus’ victorious death, then further through post-resurrection displays of his power, and perpetually through the addition of new believers into God’s family. The JWs teach that Jesus’ Kingdom did not begin until his invisible return in 1914. The form of the Greek word for "receiving" (paralambano) implies a current condition, but the revision suggests a future event according to the JW doctrine.

1 Peter 1:11

"Spirit of Christ in them was pointing" changed to "the spirit in them was indicating concerning Christ."

Another example of the supernatural presence of Jesus in the life of a Christian is obscured again by this revision as the JW doctrinal view presents him as more limited.

I Peter 3:18-19

"By the Spirit, through whom" changed to "in the spirit. In this [state]."

Similar to several examples presented above, in this passage the presence and personality of the Holy Spirit is obscured with a more abstract representation of the Holy Spirit to accommodate the JW doctrine.

1 John 4:1-6

"Spirit" changed to "inspired expression"

Even clearer is 1 John 4:1-6. John has just stated that we know our union with God is secure "owing to the spirit which he gave us" (3:24). The next sentence in the NWT reads; "Beloved ones, believe not every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God" (4:1). One would never suspect from this rendering that "INSPIRED EXPRESSION" translates the same Greek word (pneuma) as "SPIRIT" in 3:24 (see 4:2,3,6). John’s whole point is that although the Spirit’s presence assures us of God’s love, we are not to believe every "spirit" that claims to be from God but test each one by the teachings it prophets espouses. "Because many false prophets have gone out into the world" (4:1). The NWT obscures this point to avoid the implication that God’s Spirit is a person rather than a force (just as the demonic spirits are personal entities and not impersonal forces, as the JW accept).
The same doctrinal bias can be seen in 1 Tim 4:1, where the NWT reads; However, the inspired utterance says…." A straightforward "the SPIRIT says" would too obviously imply the personality of the "Spirit".

Jude 19

"Have the Spirit" changed to "having spirituality."

Similar to Gal. 6:18 above, this revision attempts to obscure the separate presence of the Holy Spirit.

Revelation 3:14

"Ruler of God’s creation" changed to "beginning of the creation by God."

The altered prepositions distract from the sovereignty of Jesus indicated in the passage and suggests that the real power of creation was accomplished through the Father, as the JWs believe that Jesus is a created being.

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Order Code RL34501
Alien Smuggling:
Recent Legislative Developments
May 22, 2008
Yule Kim
Legislative Attorney
American Law Division
Alien Smuggling: Recent Legislative Developments

The primary statutory provision proscribing alien smuggling is §274 of the
Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). INA §274 proscribes a broad spectrum of
activities that would aid aliens to enter and live within the United States without
proper legal status. Recently in Congress, a flurry of proposed legislation has been
introduced addressing alien smuggling. H.R. 4088/S. 2366/S. 2368 (the SAVE Act),
the House-passed H.R. 2399, its companion bill S. 2463, and the House-passed H.R.
2830 all contain similar language that would amend both the INA and Title 18 of the
U.S. Code. These bills would significantly alter the wording and structure of INA
§274, expanding its scope. They would also add alien smuggling provisions in §2237
of Title 18, which would enhance sentencing for disobeying federal officials on the
high seas while engaging in alien smuggling.

Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
Activities Currently Proscribed . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
Bringing an Alien to the United States Without Authorization . . . . . . . 2
Bringing an Alien to the United States at a Place
Other Than a Designated Port of Entry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
Transporting Aliens Within the United States . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
Harboring Aliens . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
Encouraging or Inducing an Alien to Come to,
Enter, or Reside in the United States . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
Conspiracy to Commit a Smuggling Offense . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
Aiding and Abetting a Smuggling Offense . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
Hiring Smuggled Aliens . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
Religious Denomination Exemption . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
Current Sentencing Provisions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
Proposed Legislative Changes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
Restructuring of INA §274 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
Changes in Sentencing . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
Other Changes to INA §274 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10
Alterations to Maritime Law Enforcement . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11

1 Act of March 3, 1875, 18 Stat. 477, §§ 2-4 (March 3, 1875).
2 See Immigration Act of 1917, 39 Stat. 874, § 8 (February 5, 1917).
3 See also INA §277 (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1327) (prohibiting aiding or assisting any
inadmissible alien to enter the United States); INA § 278 (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1328)
(prohibiting the importation of an alien for purposes of prostitution or other immoral
4 See INA § 274(a) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)).

Alien Smuggling:
Recent Legislative Developments

Statutory proscriptions against the illegal importation of aliens into the United
States can be found as far back as 1875.

1 The modern statute that broadly prohibits
various forms of alien smuggling predates the Immigration and Nationality Act
(INA), the current source for the bulk of the federal immigration laws, and was first
enacted in 1917.

2 Today, this provision, and its many amendments, can now be found
in INA §274.

3 Not only does this statute prohibit the smuggling of aliens across the
U.S. border, but it also prohibits the transport and harboring of aliens within the
United States. Thus, the statute covers a broad spectrum of activities that could
conceivably subject to criminal liability any individual who provides assistance to an
alien he knows or should know is unlawfully present within the United States.
Recently, there has been a flurry of proposed legislation introduced in Congress
addressing alien smuggling. The proposed legislation can be found in multiple bills,
all containing near identical language that seeks to alter several statutory provisions
in both the INA and Title 18 of the United States Code. This report describes the law
that currently governs alien smuggling and then addresses how the proposed
legislation would change the current law structurally and substantively.

Activities Currently Proscribed
INA §274 proscribes several types of activities that can be characterized as alien
smuggling. These activities are characterized broadly, potentially criminalizing a
wide range of activities. This is particularly apparent when analyzing the scienter
element of these provisions. Most of these provisions state that a violation occurs
when a defendant commits an offense “knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact”
that an alien’s presence in the United States is in violation of the law.

4 “Reckless
disregard” requires more than mere negligence, but it does not require that a
defendant have actual knowledge that the alien he is assisting is in the country

5 BLACK’S LAW DICTIONARY 1276 (7th ed. 1999) (defining “recklessness”). See also
Masson v. New Yorker Magazine, Inc., 501 U.S. 496, 510 (1991) (noting in a libel case by
a public figure, the utterer of the defamatory statement must have acted knowing the
statement was false or in reckless disregard of its falsity; “mere negligence is insufficient”);
Rodriguez-Castro v. Gonzales, 427 F.3d 316, 323-324 (5th Cir. 2005) (distinguishing
“reckless disregard” from mere negligence in the context of deciding what constitutes a
crime of moral turpitude).

6 Matter of Median, 15 I. & N. Dec. 611, 613-614 (BIA 1976).

7 United States v. Fierros, 692 F.2d 1291 (9th Cir. 1982).

8 INA § 274(a)(2) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(2)) (“Any person who, knowing or in
reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior official authorization to
come to, enter, or reside in the United States, brings to or attempts to bring to the United
States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may
later be taken with respect to such alien….”).

9 United States v. Yoshida, 303 F.3d 1145, 1151-1152 (9th Cir. 2002) (finding a person who
guided aliens to an airplane headed to the United States was guilty of unlawfully “bringing”
the aliens to the United States even though she did not pilot the airplane). See also United
States v. Gonzalez-Torres, 309 F.3d 594 (9th Cir. 2002).

10 McFarland v. United States, 19 F.2d 805 (6th Cir. 1927).
illegally for there to be a violation.

5 Rather, “reckless disregard” requires a person
to consciously disregard a substantial and unjustifiable risk, and such disregard must
constitute a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would
exercise in the situation.

6 Thus, a violation would occur if a defendant chooses to
assist an alien in some manner when he “should have known” that the alien was in
the United States illegally.
Furthermore, although a defendant must either know or act in reckless disregard
of the fact that an alien is unlawfully present within the United States in order to
commit a violation, the person need not know that his act violates the alien
smuggling statute and is unlawful in order to be susceptible to criminal liability.

Thus, scienter (i.e., the “intent” requirement) is only required in terms of the
defendant knowing the alien is unlawfully present and the defendant knowingly
assisting the alien; ignorance about the unlawfulness of the assistance is most likely
not a defense.

Bringing an Alien to the United States Without Authorization. INA
§274(a)(2) makes it an offense to bring or attempt to bring an alien into the United
States in any manner whatsoever while knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact
an alien has not received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the
United States, regardless of any official action that may later be taken with respect
to such alien.

8 The term “bringing,” a potentially broad term, is not defined in the
INA. Thus, it has been subject to interpretation by the federal courts. For example,
the Ninth Circuit has held that “bringing” may include activities beyond physical
transport, such as “leading, escorting or causing an alien to come along to the United

9 On the other hand, the Sixth Circuit has held that merely accompanying or
assisting an alien seeking unauthorized entry does not constitute “bringing.”

Furthermore, the breadth of this statute is also evident in statutory language that

11 See also United States v. Merkt, 794 F.2d 950, 964 (5th Cir. 1986) (reading an older
version of the statute to criminalize the smuggling of aliens into the United States so that
they may claim asylum); United States v. Aguilar, 883 F.2d 662 (9th Cir. 1989).

12 INA § 274(a)(1)(A)(i) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(i)) (“Any person who
knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any
manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place
other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received
prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless
of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien…shall be
punished as provided in subparagraph (B).”).

13 INA § 274(a)(1)(A)(ii) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(ii)) (“Any person who
knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains
in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or
move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in
furtherance of such violation of law…shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).”).

14 United States v. Moreno, 561 F.2d 1321, 1323 (9th Cir. 1977); United States v.
Velasquez-Cruz, 929 F.2d 420 (8th Cir. 1991) (applying Moreno).

15 Moreno, 561 F.2d at 1323.
suggests that bringing an alien into the United States constitutes a violation even
when it was likely that the alien would be eligible for asylum or some other form of
relief from removal.11

Bringing an Alien to the United States at a Place Other Than a
Designated Port of Entry. INA §274(a)(1)(A)(i) makes it an offense, while
knowing a person is an alien, to bring or attempt to bring such person into the United
States at a place other than a designated port of entry regardless as to whether the
person was authorized to come to the United States.

12 Although it appears that this
statute overlaps with INA §274(a)(2), it differs in that it imposes criminal liability so
long as the defendant knows that the person he is “bringing” into the United States
is an alien. Knowledge of legal status is irrelevant. However, in order to incur
liability, the defendant must assist the alien in evading inspection at a port of entry.

Transporting Aliens Within the United States. INA §274(a)(1)(A)(ii)
makes it an offense, while knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien’s
presence in the United States is in violation of the law, to transport, move, or attempt
to transport or to move such alien within the United States in furtherance of the
violation against the law.

13 Although it appears that this statute is broad, it does have
a limiting principle. In order to incur criminal liability, the violation must be
committed “in furtherance” of the alien’s unlawful entry or presence. The Ninth and
Eighth Circuits have stated that a person’s transportation of an alien is not “in
furtherance” of an alien’s unlawful entry or presence if the transport was only
“incidentally connected to” the alien’s unauthorized entry or status.

14 Certain factors
the Ninth Circuit appears to weigh when determining whether there is a transport
violation are the “time, place, distance, and overall impact” that the transportation
has upon the alien’s violation of immigration laws.

On the other hand, the Sixth Circuit has rejected this “direct and substantial
relationship test,” and instead examines the intent of the person transporting the

16 United States v. 1982 Ford Pick-Up, 873 F.2d 947, 951 (6th Cir. 1989).

17 Id. at 952.

18 See United States v. Barajas-Chavez, 162 F.3d 1285 (10th Cir. 1999) (en banc); United
States v. Parmelee, 42 F.3d 387 (7th Cir. 1994); Merkt, 764 F.2d 266 (5th Cir. 1985).

19 INA § 274(a)(1)(A)(iii) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii)) (“Any person who
knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains

in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors or shields from detection, or
attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any
building or any means of transportation…shall be punished as provided in subparagraph

20 United States v. Rubio-Gonzalez, 674 F.2d 1067 (5th Cir. 1982).

21 E.g., Aguilar, 883 F.2d 662 (9th Cir. 1989) (finding that a church official violated the
harboring provision when he invited an illegal alien to stay in an apartment behind his
church, and interpreting harboring statute as not requiring an intent to avoid detection);
Rubio-Gonzalez, 674 F.2d at 1067 (suggesting that “harboring” an alien is a broader concept
than other smuggling provisions relating to the concealment of an alien or the shielding of
an alien from detection); U.S. v. Acosta De Evans, 531 F.2d 428 (9th Cir. 1976) (upholding
harboring conviction of defendant who provided illegal aliens with apartment, and
concluding that harboring provision was not limited to clandestine sheltering only) .

22 United States v. Lopez, 521 F.2d 437, 441 (2d Cir. 1975).

16 The Circuit has suggested that the transport of “friends, relatives, and…coworkers”
who are unlawfully present may not constitute transportation “in
furtherance” of an immigration violation if the transport was meant only to maintain
the alien’s well-being and existence; criminal liability seems to require that the
assistance be given with a specific intent to promote an alien’s illegal presence
within the United States.

17 Other federal circuits, in contrast, have taken a more
general approach to assessing whether the transportation of an unauthorized alien is
“in furtherance” of an alien’s violation of the law by considering the individual facts
and circumstances of each particular case.

Harboring Aliens. INA §274(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense, while knowing
or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien is unlawfully present in the United
States, to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, or attempt to conceal, harbor,
or shield from detection such alien.

19 Courts have typically construed the harboring
statute broadly. For example, the Fifth Circuit has interpreted the provision
concerning the “shielding of aliens from detection” to prohibit the warning of
unauthorized aliens of the presence of immigration officers.

20 Furthermore, some
courts have interpreted the harboring provision such that the mere sheltering of an
alien, knowing or in reckless disregard of the alien’s unlawful status, is a ground for
criminal liability, regardless of whether it was done surreptitiously.

21 Another court
has interpreted this provision to require “conduct tending substantially to facilitate
an alien’s ‘remaining in the United States’ illegally.”

Encouraging or Inducing an Alien to Come to, Enter, or Reside in
the United States. INA §274(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense to encourage or
induce an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States while knowing or in
reckless disregard of the fact that the alien would be present within the United States

23 INA § 274(a)(1)(A)(iv) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)) (“Any person who
encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or
in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in
violation of law…shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).”).

24 United States v. Oloyede, 982 F.2d 133 (4th Cir. 1992); United States v. Ndiaye, 434 F.3d
1270 (11th Cir. 2006).

25 United States v. Fuji, 301 F.3d 535, 540 (7th Cir. 2002).

26 INA § 274(a)(1)(A)(v)(I) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(v)(I)) (“Any person who
engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts…shall be punished as
provided in subparagraph (B).”).

27 See Whitfield v. United States, 543 U.S. 209 (2005) (holding that a federal statute making
it a crime to conspire to commit a listed offense required prosecutors to prove only that a
conspiracy existed, and not that any overt action was subsequently taken in furtherance of
the conspiracy).

28 See United States v. Driscoll, 449 F.2d 894 (1st Cir. 1971); United States v. Vega-Limon,
548 F.2d 1390 (9th Cir. 1977).

29 INA § 274(a)(1)(A)(v)(II) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(v)(II)) (“[A]ids or abets
the commission of any of the preceding acts…shall be punished as provided in subparagraph
in violation of law.

23 Courts have recognized that encouragement or inducement can
mean providing conscious material support for an alien’s attempt to unlawfully enter
or reside in the United States. For example, providing or selling an illegal alien
fraudulent immigration and work documents so that he may more easily remain in
the United States has been found to be grounds for liability.

24 Indeed, the Seventh
Circuit has found that in order to demonstrate that a person “encouraged or induced”
an alien, “all that the government needed to establish was that…[the individual]
knowingly helped or advised the alien[…].”

Conspiracy to Commit a Smuggling Offense. INA §274(a)(1)(A)(v)(I)
makes it an offense to engage in any conspiracy to commit any of the acts proscribed
by INA §274(a)(1).

26 Thus, this provision only criminalizes conspiracies to bring or
attempt to bring an alien into the United States at a place other than a designated
port of entry, to transport, move, or attempt to transport or move an alien, to
conceal, harbor, shield from detection, or attempt to conceal, harbor, or shield from
detection an alien, and to encourage, induce, or attempt to encourage or induce an
alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States. Alternatively, a defendant
could be charged with a federal conspiracy offense under 18 U.S.C. §371, which is
not limited to the offenses enumerated in INA §274(a)(1). Section 371, however, may
not be the best vehicle to pursue a conspiracy offense because, unlike INA §274, it
has a statutory provision requiring that at least one conspirator commit an overt act
to effect the underlying offense for there to be a violation.

27 On the other hand,
several federal circuits appear to require a showing of an overt act in order for there
to be an INA §274 conspiracy offense.

Aiding and Abetting a Smuggling Offense. INA §274(a)(1)(A)(v)(II)
makes it an offense to aid and abet the commission of any of the acts proscribed by
INA §274(a)(1).29 Alternatively, under 18 U.S.C. § 2, a person “who aids, abets,

29 (…continued)

30 See INA § 274A(h)(3) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324a) (defining an “unauthorized alien”
as an alien either not admitted for permanent residence within the United States or not
authorized to be employed).

31 INA § 274(a)(3) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(3)).

32 INA § 274(a)(1)(C) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(C)) (“It is not a violation of clauses
(ii) or (iii) of subparagraph (A), or of clause (iv) of subparagraph (A) except where a person
encourages or induces an alien to come to or enter the United States, for a religious
denomination having a bona fide nonprofit, religious organization in the United States, or
the agents or officers of such denomination or organization, to encourage, invite, call, allow,
or enable an alien who is present in the United States to perform the vocation of a minister
or missionary for the denomination or organization in the United States as a volunteer who
is not compensated as an employee, notwithstanding the provision of room, board, travel,
medical assistance, and other basic living expenses, provided the minister or missionary has
been a member of the denomination for at least one year.”).
counsels, commands, induces, or procures” the commission of an offense against the
United States may be punishable as a principal.

Hiring Smuggled Aliens. INA §274(a)(3) makes it an offense to knowingly
hire for employment during any 12-month period at least 10 individuals with actual
knowledge that the individuals are either unauthorized aliens

30 or have been brought
into the United States in violation of INA § 274(a).

31 This provision is distinct from
INA §274A, which more generally imposes penalties upon persons for employing
any unlawfully present alien.

Religious Denomination Exemption
Despite the rather broad sweep of INA §274, the statute outlines an exemption.
It states that a religious denomination does not violate the proscription against
transporting, moving, attempting to transport or to move, concealing, harboring,
shielding from detection, attempting to conceal, attempting to harbor, attempting to
shield from detection, or encouraging or inducing an alien to reside in the United
States, if the denomination encourages, invites, calls, allows, or enables an alien who
is present in the United States to perform the vocation of a minister or missionary for
the denomination in the United States as an uncompensated volunteer so long as the
alien was a member of the denomination for at least one year.

Current Sentencing Provisions
The various offenses enumerated in INA §274 carry different baseline penalties,
which may be enhanced depending on the circumstances. For example, committing
an alien smuggling offense in furtherance of a commercial activity or causing a
serious injury or death to a person while committing the offense will enhance the

! Bringing or attempting to bring an alien into the United States at a
place other than a designated port of entry (INA §274(a)(1)(A)(i))

33 INA § 274(a)(1)(B)(i) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(B)(i)).

34 Id.
35 INA § 274(a)(1)(B)(ii) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(B)(ii)).
36 INA § 274(a)(1)(B)(iii) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(B)(iii)).
37 INA § 274(a)(1)(B)(iv) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(B)(iv)).
38 INA § 274(a)(3)(A) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(3)(A)).

39 INA § 274(a)(2)(A) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(2)(A)).
or conspiring to commit any of the acts proscribed by INA §274
(INA §274(a)(1)(A)(v)(I)) merits either a fine, imprisonment of not
more than 10 years, or both.

! Transporting, moving, or attempting to transport or move an alien
(INA §274(a)(1)(A)(ii)), concealing, harboring, shielding from
detection, or attempting to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection
an alien (INA §274(a)(1)(A)(iii)), or encouraging or inducing an
alien to enter the United States (INA §274(a)(1)(A)(iv)) for purposes
of commercial advantage or private financial gain merits either a
fine, imprisonment of not more than 10 years, or both.

! Transporting, moving, or attempting to transport or move an alien
(INA §274(a)(1)(A)(ii)), concealing, harboring, shielding from
detection, or attempting to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection
an alien (INA §274(a)(1)(A)(iii)), or encouraging or inducing an
alien to enter the United States (INA §274(a)(1)(A)(iv)) for purposes
other than commercial advantage or private financial gain, or aiding
and abetting any of the acts proscribed by INA §274 (INA
§274(a)(1)(A)(v)(II)), merits only a fine, imprisonment for not more
than five years, or both.

! If during or in relation to the violation of any act proscribed by INA
§274 a serious bodily injury occurs, or a person’s life is placed in
jeopardy, the violator can be fined, imprisoned for not more than 20
years, or both.

! If a death occurs during or in relation to a violation of any of the acts
proscribed by INA §274, the violator can be fined, punished by
death, imprisoned for any number or years or for life, or fined and
imprisoned or punished with death.

! Knowingly hiring for employment aliens not authorized to work in
the United States (INA §274(a)(3)) is punishable by fine,
imprisonment for not more than five years, or both.

Different penalties apply for bringing or attempting to bring an alien into the
United States in any manner whatsoever (INA §274(a)(2)).
! In general, the above offense can be punished by a fine, a term of
imprisonment for not more than one year, or both, for each alien
brought into the United States by the defendant.

! However, committing the offense with the intent or with reason to
believe that the alien would commit an offense against the United
40 INA § 274(a)(2)(B)(iii) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(B)(iii)).
41 Id.
42 INA § 274(a)(4)(A) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(4)(A)).
43 INA § 274(a)(4)(B) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(4)(B)).
44 INA § 274(a)(4)(C)(i) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(4)(C)(i)).
45 INA § 274(a)(4)(C)(ii) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(4)(C)(ii)).

46 INA § 274(b)(1) (codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1324(b)(1)).
States or any State punishable by imprisonment for more than one
year, or committing the above offense for the purpose of commercial
advantage or private financial gain, is punishable by fine for each
violation, and/or a term of imprisonment for not less than three years
nor more than 10 years for each of the first two violations, and a
term of imprisonment for not less than five years nor more than 15
years for each additional violation.

! Moreover, committing the above offense in which the alien is not
upon arrival immediately brought and presented to an appropriate
immigration officer at a designated port of entry is punishable by
fine for each violation, and/or a term of imprisonment not more than
10 years for each of the first two violations, and a term of
imprisonment not less than five years nor more than 15 years for
each additional violation.

When an alien is brought into the United States in violation of INA §274(a),
sentences can be enhanced by up to 10 years if
! the offense was part of an ongoing commercial organization or

! aliens were transported in groups of 10 or more;

! aliens were transported in a manner that endangered their lives;

44 or
! the aliens presented a life-threatening health risk to people in the
United States.

In addition, “any conveyance, including any vessel, vehicle, or aircraft, that has
been or is being used in the commission” of a violation of INA §274(a), “the gross
proceeds of such violation, and any property traceable to such conveyance or
proceeds,” is subject to civil forfeiture.

Proposed Legislative Changes
Several bills in the 110th Congress have provisions related to alien smuggling.
H.R. 4088/S. 2366/S. 2368 (SAVE Act), the House-passed H.R. 2399, its companion
bill S. 2463, and the House-passed H.R. 2830 all contain similar language that would
amend both the INA and Title 18 of the U.S. Code. These bills would significantly
alter the wording and structure of INA §274, expanding its scope. They would also
add alien smuggling provisions in §2237 of Title 18, which would enhance

47 See, e.g., Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, H.R. 2399, 110th Cong.
§ 4 (2008).

48 See INA § 274(a)(3).

49 See CRS Report RL32480, Immigration Consequences of Criminal Activity, by Yule Kim
and Michael John Garcia.

50 See, e.g., Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, H.R. 2399, 110th Cong.
§ 4 (2008).

51 See INA § 274(a)(3), (4).
sentencing for disobeying federal officials on the high seas while engaging in alien
Restructuring of INA §274. The most significant change is the overall
restructuring of INA §274. The proposed legislation would consolidate most of the
proscribed acts into paragraphs (a)(1)(A) and (a)(1)(B) of INA §274.47 The only
proscription left untouched is the one proscribing the employment of smuggled aliens
unauthorized to work in the United States.

48 An issue that the proposed legislation
does not address involves cross-referencing. Currently, INA §101(a)(43)(N) defines
an “aggravated felony” as “an offense described in paragraph (1)(A) or (2) of” INA
§274. If this cross-reference is left intact, this would mean bringing an alien into the
United States at a place other than a designated port of entry would no longer be an
aggravated felony. The result is that someone convicted of such an offense would no
longer be inadmissible for committing an aggravated felony and automatically
subject to removal from the United States.

Changes in Sentencing. The restructuring also places most of the penalty
provisions in INA §274(a)(1)(C).

50 The only sentencing provisions unaffected by the
new legislation concern several sentencing enhancements and the penalties for
employing aliens unauthorized to work in the United States.

51 The proposed
legislation would alter the current sentencing schema in several ways:
! Unless stated otherwise, a violation of any act in INA §274 merits
a fine, imprisonment for not more than five years, or both.
! If the offense involves the transit of the defendant’s spouse, child,
sibling, parent, grandparent, or niece or nephew, and the offense is
not affected by the sentencing enhancements listed below, the
defendant may be fined, imprisoned for not more than one year, or
! If the offense was for recruiting, encouraging, or inducing an alien
to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, transporting or
moving an alien in the United States, or harboring, concealing, or
shielding from detection the alien in any place in the United States,
for purposes of profit, commercial advantage, or private financial
gain, the defendant may be fined, imprisoned for not more than 10
years, or both.
! If the offense was for bringing an alien into the United States in any
manner whatsoever regardless of any future official action that may
be taken with respect to the alien, for the purpose of profit,

52 See, e.g.,United States v. Delgado-Garcia, 374 F.3d 1337 (D.C. Cir. 2004) (statute
prohibiting conspiring to induce aliens to illegally enter United States and the bringing of
unauthorized aliens to the United States applies extraterritorially).

53 See, e.g., Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, H.R. 2399, 110th Cong.
§ 4 (2008).

54 Id.
commercial advantage, or private financial gain, or if the offense
was committed with the intent or reason to believe the alien would
commit an offense against the United States or any State punishable
by imprisonment for more than one year, the defendant may be fined
for each violation, and/or imprisoned for not less than 3 and not
more than 10 years for the first two offenses, and not less than 5 and
not more than 15 years for each subsequent offense.
! If the offense results in serious bodily injury or places in jeopardy
the life of any person, the defendant may be fined, imprisoned for
not more than 20 years, or both.
! If the offense involves an individual who the defendant knew was
engaged in or intended to engage in terrorist activities, the defendant
may be fined, imprisoned for not more than 30 years, or both.
! If the offense involves kidnaping, an attempt to kidnap, conduct
required for aggravated sexual abuse, an attempt to commit
aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, the defendant may be
fined, imprisoned for any term of years or life, or both.
! If the offense results in the death of any person, the defendant may
be fined, imprisoned for any term of years or life, punished with
death, or both.
Other Changes to INA §274. The proposed legislation would also result in
several other changes to INA §274. For example, the legislation would add a
provision to INA §274 that would affirmatively assert extraterritorial jurisdiction for
acts of alien smuggling that occur outside the United States. Although many courts
have suggested extraterritorial jurisdiction exists over some offenses,52 this provision
would clarify that the full reach of the statute extends to acts committed by alien
smuggling networks on the high seas and in foreign countries.53
Furthermore, if a defendant violates INA §274 on “the high seas,” no defense
based on necessity can be raised unless (1) the defendant informs the Coast Guard
“as soon as practicable” of the necessity and if a rescue is claimed, information about
the vessel engaging in the rescue and (2) the defendant did not bring or attempt to
bring any alien into the land territory of the United States without lawful authority,
unless exigent circumstances existed that placed the life of the alien in danger.54
Finally, the legislation would alter the religious denomination exemption by
explicitly making it an affirmative defense, which would clarify that the burden of
proof is on the defendant religious denomination to demonstrate that its conduct falls
55 Id.
56 18 U.S.C. § 2237(a)(1).
57 18 U.S.C. § 2237(a)(2).
58 18 U.S.C. § 2237(b).

59 See, e.g., Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, H.R. 2399, 110th Cong.
§ 5 (2008).
under the exemption. It would also deny the exemption for religious denominations
accused of encouraging or inducing an alien to reside in the United States.

Alterations to Maritime Law Enforcement. The proposed legislation
would not only alter INA §274, but would also affect §2237 of Title 18 of the U.S.
Code. Section 2237 prohibits a ship master in charge of a vessel subject to the
jurisdiction of the United States from knowingly failing to obey an order by an
authorized Federal law enforcement vessel to heave to that vessel.

56 It also prohibits
any person on such vessel from forcibly resisting a boarding or a law enforcement
action authorized by Federal law or to provide materially false information to a
Federal law enforcement officer with regard to information related to the vessel.

Normally, violating §2237 would subject a defendant to a fine, imprisonment for not
more than five years, or both.58 However, the proposed legislation would enhance the
sentences under these circumstances:
! If the offense is committed in the course of a violation of INA §274,
Chapter 77 of Title 18, §111 of Title 18, Section 111A of Title 18,
§113 of Title 18, §117 of Title 18, Chapter 705 of Title 46, or Title
II of the Act of June 15, 1917, the offender shall be fined,
imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both.
! If the offense results in serious bodily injury or transportation under
inhuman conditions, the offender shall be fined, imprisoned not
more than 15 years, or both.
! If the offense results in death or involves kidnaping, an attempt to
kidnap, the conduct required for aggravated sexual abuse, or an
attempt to commit such abuse, or an attempt to kill, the offender may
be fined, imprisoned for any term of years or life, or both.

The proposed legislation would also limit the availability of a necessity defense
and would define the term “transportation under inhumane conditions.”

DRUG WARS REYNOSA MEXICO MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary “The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO” Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

Drugs Wars MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary "The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO" Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

CONTACT:  October 2009

Next month, it will be four years here in Reynosa Mexico for me. Reynosa is really a very quaint, peaceful place, for the most part.
Yet, as when serving in Asia, the brutality of "evil," is the same, in any place that one goes. 
Violence here, by the drug dealers, was simply meet with a more violent force, below is the resulting carnage. 
The military purpose is to kill and destroy the enemy.
My time  of the past, in the Military, was from 65′-68.’ Then upon leaving as an E-5, honorably discharged. 
I had volunteered, to join the Army, and volunteer twice for Nam.
I haven’t thought about death, and destruction, for quite sometime.  
I had made the decision to see these photos, normally I avoid them, for one of my students here, had them.
This wasn’t on the local news, the military had totally surrounded this group, with blocking off one entire area of Reynosa, the military commandeered street buses, in blocking all exits from this part of town.
Violence is not easy to look upon, and yet, it’s much more destructive, if one is involved in it, by accident, or otherwise.
Asia, and it seems like, the third world countries, are involved in violence, are, or, prone to it. The people have this disregard for life.  
I have been fifteen times around the world now.
A Christ-less life, an abandonment of self control, of piety, virtue, of propriety of laws.
Leads to this violent path, here in this world now, and then, an eternal violence in the here-after.
As a Christian, when now looking at these pictures, I know that these, in these pictures, have meet exactly what they have lived, violence!  Their total disregard for society and it’s laws.
Yet, I know that each has a mom and dad, brothers and sisters, and the extended families. How, for the most part some of their families, will know of their deaths, while others won’t. Into a grave, they will fall, never to be seen again, never to be part of life.
I know of working in ministry work in the prisons, working with street gangs, Asia, sharing Christ, that it is this, that, that all need to be part of, of "Christ," and His followers, we can prevent such horrors, if we as a people, will humble ourselves and call on the Lord "Jesus." And in so doing, that we can have a relationship with our Heavenly Father.
That we can have a small part in helping those in their youth, before this violence catches them.
Upon looking at these photos, it is with much sadness, to see such human waste.
I would ask for your prayers, for myself and another, as we will be going into the local prison here, next month October, 2009. It’s population is around three thousand. I have the gentle peace of God, about this, and it is my sincere hope, that one will change, his life’s path, from destruction and grief, to love, forgiveness, and purpose.
Missionary Norm
DRUG WARS REYNOSA MEXICO MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary "The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO" Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.


The Church And Socialism MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary “The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO” Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

Professor Charles R. Erdman, D. D., Princeton Theological Seminary The Church And Socialism MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary "The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO" Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.


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N. Oetker.  I’ve posted all of Professor Erdman article on socialism, and more importantly, the position, in regards to the church in it, in that the church is the primary method in bringing change, thus, correcting social ills.

Socialism is bantered about quite freely now, in September 2009.  Professor Erdman’s  understanding of this subject, keeps one centered to the church’s purpose, this is a very good read, balanced. The contrasts, that he brings to light, in regards to all manners concerning man, that is in regards to the “State,” and then, the, “Church.”



Professor Charles R. Erdman, D. D.

The hope of the world is not in a new social order instituted by unregenerate men; not a millennium made by man; not a commonwealth of humanity organized as a Socialistic state; but a kingdom established by Christ which will fill the earth with glory at the coming of the King.

III. Socialism is, however, something else than a scientific economic theory, or a popular materialistic philosophy, it is a serious protest against the social wrongs and cruelties of the age, against the defects of the present economic system. against special privilege and entrenched injustice, against prevalent poverty, and hunger, and despair. It is not always an intelligent protest. Its cry is sometimes inarticulate and wild; but it voices the social unrest, the sullen discontent, the bitter envy and sorrow of thousands who are attracted to Socialism merely by its protest against the present social order and its prophecies of a better age to come. 

With this great movement the Christian Church is deeply concerned;

first, because of the endeavor which many are making to identify Socialism with Christianity; and,

secondly, because, on the other extreme, popular Socialism is suggested as a substitute for religion and is antagonistic to Christianity; and,

thirdly, because the strength of Socialism consists largely in its protest against existing social wrongs to which the Church is likewise opposed but which can be finally righted only by the universal rule of Christ.

I. Socialism, strictly defined, is an economic theory which proposes the abolition of private capital and the substitution of collective ownership in carrying on the industrial work of the world. This collective ownership is to extend to all the material instruments of production; these are to be publicly operated, and the products to be equitably distributed. The government is to be wholly in the hands of the people, and it is to assign to each individual his task and to determine his wage. Every citizen is to be actually a government employee.

It is evident that Socialism is to be distinguished from Communism with which it is often confused.

Communism, advocates a collective ownership of all wealth.

Socialism does not deny the right of private property, but of private capital.

In a Socialistic state one might own a house, but he could not rent it to increase his income. He might own a yacht, but he could riot use it to carry passengers for pay.

Under Communism there would be no private ownership, but it would be literally true that "no man could call aught that he possessed his own."

Socialism is still more easily distinguished from Anarchism. 

Anarchism, seeks the abolition of all government; but

Socialism advocates the extension of the functions of government to regulate the life and labor of every individual and even in the most minute details.

Anarchy means no government;

Socialism proposes more government than any nation has ever known.

Quite as obviously Socialism should never be confused with that extreme form of Anarchy known as Nihilism.

Nihilism (Anarchy) advocates the violent abolition of all existing institutions, social and political.

It is true that Socialists often propose revolution and violence; but an ever increasing number believe their ends will be attained by a gradual process of social evolution moving toward the goal of a collective ownership of capital.

It is not right therefore to identify Socialism with assassination, lawlessness and outrage.

Most important of all is the distinction between Socialism and Christianity.

This might seem to be self-evident. Christianity is a religion;

Socialism an economic theory, or a political proposal, and with such theories and proposals Christianity and the Church have nothing to do.

At the present time, however, there is a strong endeavor and an evident tendency to identify Socialism and the Christian Church.

Some are insisting that Jesus Christ was a Socialist and that the early Church was established on Socialistic principles.

Others declare that Socialism is merely the application of Christianity to industrial problems, and that it is the duty of a Christian minister to preach Socialism, and the supreme function of the Christian Church to introduce and support Socialism as the one cure for all existing social evils.

As to Jesus Christ, it is impossible to identify Him with any social theory or political party.

His teachings are of universal application and eternal validity; but they do not deal with the questions of political economy any more than with those of physical science.

That He insisted upon justice, and brotherhood, and love, and self-sacrifice is evident; but to suggest that these virtues are the monopoly of any one political or economic party is presumptuous, and to prove that Christ advocated "collective ownership of property" is impossible.

The fundamental economic problem relates to the division of wealth; and as to that Christ refused to speak.

He rebuked social sins and injustice and selfishness, but when requested to divide a possession on a certain occasion He asked, "Who made Me a judge or a divider over you?" and that question has wide implications for the present day.

When we read the story of the early Church there are statements which suggest Socialism or even Communism, as for instance when we read that "they had all things common," but a fuller investigation shows their Communism was local, voluntary, occasional, temporary.

It was practiced only in Jerusalem, no one was compelled to divide or sell his property, not all adopted the practice, but many like Mary the mother of Mark kept their homes in the city.

Furthermore, this Communism was only practiced for a time. It was prompted by love and designed to meet a special crisis, but never admitted or established as an abiding principle of Church life. 

As to the Church of today, it would be gross injustice to its members should it be identified with Socialism.

While Socialists may adopt many of the Christian principles and feel impelled by Christian motives, they must remember that Christianity is something other than a social propaganda and far more than an economic theory.

On the other hand, the Church recognizes that it has no right to ally itself with any political party, or to commit itself to any one form of social or industrial organization.

The Church leaves its members free to adopt or reject Socialism as they may deem wise.

A man may be an ardent Socialist and a sincere Christian, or he may be a true Christian and a determined opponent of Socialism.

Most Christians admit the wisdom of many Socialistic proposals, but feel that they are at liberty to act without the interference of the Church.

In America, for example, the public school system and post office department of the government are instances of the application of Socialistic principles.

Government ownership might be extended to the railroads, mines, public utilities, factories; this would not involve questions of religion, but of expediency and political wisdom, with which problems the Church has nothing to do.

On the other hand many Christians are persuaded that there are fallacies and weaknesses in the Socialistic scheme

They believe, for instance, that Socialists are mistaken in assuming that labor is the sole factor in producing wealth,

and that capital is the result or embodiment of robbery; they do not believe the formation and government of a completely organized Socialistic state would be practical or possible; they are convinced that Socialism, if realized, would involve a tyranny and slavery which would be incredible and intolerable.

These are their sincere convictions and men who hold them should not be denied a place in the Church nor rebuked by the Church as though they were lacking in intelligence or in Christian sympathy and love.

It should be recognized that the Church is not to invade the field of political economy, nor is it allied with any political or social order or propaganda.

It is in this connection that the movement called "Christian Socialism" should be criticized.

To say the least, the name it has adopted is unfortunate, for it implies, whether intentionally or not, that other Socialists are not Christians, and that other Christians should be Socialists.

One might as well speak of Christian Democrats, or Christian Republicans, or Christian Suffragists.

The implications would be much the same. "Christian Socialism," however, is not only an imperfect name; it is in most of its forms an unfortunate thing.

In some cases, it is true, it is merely the expression of a benevolent desire that a spirit of justice and brotherhood should be shown by men in their social and industrial relations.

This is innocent enough; but as presented by the great mass of its advocates, …

"Christian Socialism" is neither Christian nor Socialism …. It is disappointing to Christians and irritating to Socialists.

It minimizes or denies such Christian truths as the incarnation, the virgin birth, the atonement, the resurrection, justification by faith, the work of the Holy Spirit, the second coming of Christ, and insofar it ceases to be true Christianity.

On the other hand, it is not real Socialism. Few of its adherents deny the right of private capital, or insist upon the "collective ownership of the instruments of production."

In the effort to unite Christianity and Socialism justice is done to neither.

Such a union should never be attempted.

From Socialism as a strict economic theory,

Christianity is absolutely


II. Popular Socialism, however, is something quite different from a scientific economic theory.

It is a social creed, offered as a substitute for religion, promising material benefits to all mankind, and bitterly opposed to Christianity and the Church.

Much of this hatred is due to ignorance and prejudice.

Great multitudes who call themselves Socialists have vague conceptions of the problems of political science or of the serious difficulties involved in the establishment of a Socialistic state, but they are vividly conscious of their hatred against existing institutions which they hold responsible for the present social inequalities and wrongs.

Christian teachers, therefore, do well to meet fairly and generously the attacks which Socialists are making upon the Church, and they should explain to Socialists their misconceptions and the obvious defects of their creed.

1. Popular Socialism is mistaken in identifying the Christian Church with "capital," and in regarding the Church as responsible for the present social order.

It is commonly asserted that the Church is the "rich man’s club"; that Christian ministers are controlled by men of wealth and afraid to rebuke social evils, that the Gospel is preached with the purpose of making poor men content with their present conditions and of preventing them from rising to assert their rights.

As a matter of fact the Church is committed to no one social order. It has flourished under imperial rule as it has in great republics, but it is opposed to the wrongs and injustice of every system.

Instead of being "the rich man’s club" the great proportion of its members are wage earners, and a very small proportion are in the Church.

As to the ministry, it is rarely recruited from the ranks of the wealthy, and its representatives are usually fearless in their rebuke of social sins.

It is the glory of the Church that it welcomes to its services and blesses by its offices both rich and poor alike, and does more to obliterate class distinctions than any other agency in the world.


2. Popular Socialism unjustly places all capitalists under suspicion of dishonesty and selfishness.

It is true that the more intelligent advocates of Socialism, as an economic proposal, discriminate between the responsibilities of individuals and the defects of a system.

They even sympathize with capitalists who are compelled to act under conditions and laws which are beyond their control, and they attack no one class in a community, but seek for new institutions which, without violence or injustice, will secure a truer equality of opportunity and condition.

But "popular Socialism" regards all men of wealth with enmity. Its outcries against the rich are engendering the bitterest class hatred and arousing passions which, unless controlled, will result in violence and anarchy and universal disaster.

There can be no doubt that capital is often cruel, that at times it depends upon injustice and tyranny, and frequently exploits the helpless, and produces misery and distress; but these abuses are not universal.

Where they exist they can be corrected by law; and it is merely begging the question to assert that they can be removed only by abolishing capital and substituting collective ownership.

On the other hand, it must be remembered that large numbers of capitalists are scrupulously honest in their dealings and are devoted to the welfare of their employees.

So far, however, has "popular Socialism" poisoned the public mind that these last statements would be received in many quarters with ridicule and incredulity.

Yet it is undoubtedly true that many employers are conducting large business enterprises with a deep sense of their personal responsibility and in a spirit of sympathy and helpfulness.

It should be noticed further that the very principles of industry, fidelity and honesty, taught by Christianity, enable men to increase their power and wealth, and this should be true under any form of social organization.

The mere fact that one is possessed of wealth should not be regarded as evidence that he has been guilty of robbery and greed.

3. Popular Socialism fails to recognize that the principles of justice, fraternity and charity, by which its leaders claim to be animated, are Christian principles, and have been ex pressed by the Church as by no other society of men.

It is hardly rational for Socialists to contend, as they do, that all the hospitals and orphanages and benevolent institutions in Christian and pagan lands, established and conducted by the Church, are mere weak endeavors to bolster up a false and decadent social system.

They are rather the expression of the spirit of Christ, without which no social system can ever attain perfection or can long endure.

4. Popular Socialism is vitally defective in that it places the physical above the spiritual needs of mankind.

It is, as a philosophy, definitely materialistic. It insists that better social conditions will produce better men;

Christianity teaches that better men are needed to produce better conditions.

Socialism endeavors to elevate individuals by elevating society;

Christianity contends that society can be elevated only by the regeneration of individuals. To secure such regeneration is the supreme effort and function of the Church, and its chief message to Socialism is that the "life is more than meat and the body than raiment."

To those who are crying for equality and opportunity and improved material conditions and fondly dreaming of a new age of universal plenty and comfort and happiness, the Church repeats the divine message, "Ye must be born again."

If Socialism is ever to succeed as an economic theory, it can only be by the aid of the Church; for of all conceivable social systems, none would be more dependent upon high character and exalted principles than a socialistic state; and the production of such character and enforcement of such principles are the proved function of the Christian Church.


1. This protest of Socialism is a call to the Church to proclaim more insistently the social principles of Christ.

This does not mean the adoption of a so-called "social gospel" which discards the fundamental doctrines of Christianity and substitutes a religion of good works; but a true Gospel of grace is inseparable from a Gospel of good works.

Christian doctrines and Christian duties cannot be divorced. The New Testament no more clearly defines the relation of the believer to Christ than to the members of one’s family, to his neighbors in society, and to his fellow-citizens in the state. These social teachings of the Gospel need a new emphasis today by those who accept the whole Gospel, and should not be left to be interpreted and applied by those alone who deny essential Christianity or substitute for religion some modern social creed.

The Church must emphasize anew the teachings of Christ and His apostles relative to marriage and the family upon this sacred institution many professed Socialists are making a deadly assault. Socialism is not necessarily related to any one theory of marriage, but unfortunately it is too frequently allied with lax theories of divorce and proposals of free love which are destructive to the family and subversive of society.

The Church must proclaim anew the teaching of her Lord relative to the stewardship of wealth. Many a man who believes himself to be an orthodox Christian becomes restless and declares he wishes to hear only "the simple Gospel" when his pastor begins to expound the Scriptural principles relative to Christian stewardship. It must be insisted that one is as responsible for the methods by which his power and position and property are acquired as for the way in which these are used; and that every man must render an account to the Lord not only for his use of one-tenth of his income, but for every fraction he selfishly retains or spends. Christians must be reminded that an infallible test of being a child of God is the treatment shown to one’s neighbor who is in need.

There must be a similar emphasis on the Scriptural principles relating to masters and servants, to employers and employees. It, on the one hand, there is an insistence upon justice and sympathy, so there must be on the other, upon absolute loyalty and fidelity. The conflict between capital and labor could be avoided without a reorganization of society should both parties be controlled by the plain teachings of the Gospel of Christ.

There must he a new insistence upon the sacredness of the state and the truth that government is a divine institution. This means a new emphasis upon the duties of Christian citizenship. Every expression of anarchy and lawlessness should be severely reproved and speedily repressed; and every Christian citizen should seek by patient endeavor to solve the complex problems of modern social and industrial life, and to aid in the establishment of better customs and of juster laws.

Socialism would lose much of its power if the Church were more careful to proclaim the explicit social doctrines which form an integral part of the Gospel of Christ.

2. This protest of Socialism demands of the Church a more consistent practice, on the part of her members, of the social teachings of Christ. It is easy to bring false charges against Christians; it is even customary today to hold the Church up to ridicule and scorn as a society of hypocrites untrue to their professions and their Lord. It is not necessary to even consider these accusations which spring from ignorance or prejudice or spite.

The great masses of Christians are striving to be faithful and seeking to live well-pleasing to their Master. However, it is true that there are some in the Church who are consciously guilty of sins against society, and others who, because of the difficulty of the questions involved, excuse themselves on the ground that their wrong practices are necessitated by the industrial system of the age.

Some are quite comfortable under what they regard as orthodox preaching, even though they know their wealth has come from the watering of stocks and from wrecking railroads, and from grinding the faces of the poor. The supposed orthodoxy of such preaching is probably defective in its statements of the social teachings of the Gospels.

One might be a social bandit and buccaneer and yet believe in the virgin birth and in the resurrection of Christ; but one cannot be a Christian unless he believes "that if One died for all, then were all dead: and that He died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto Him which died for them, and rose again;" and to live for Christ means to live for Him in every sphere and relationship of life, whether employer or employee, capitalist or laborer, stock-holder or wage-earner.

We must all admit the grave complexity of modern life, and the delicacy and difficulty of the problems involved, yet we must not be content to countenance practices which are unjust or unchristian. To be absolutely true to conscience and to Christ will mean sacrifice and loss of money and social prestige. It is never easy to take up the cross daily and to follow Christ; but there is a new call for heroism, for martyrdom. Absolute loyalty to Christ in the business and social world today often means crucifixion, pain, death, but "it is the way the Master went; must not the servant tread it still?"

3. The protest of Socialism is a distinct call to the Church to define anew to herself her function, and to interpret anew the prophecies of her Lord.

There are many who, in the name of Christianity, have been promising a new social order, a kingdom of God, which they declare the Church will introduce.

The long continued failure to realize these promises has led to criticisms of the Church, and has done not a little to increase the bitterness of socialistic attacks upon her.

The Church is now being held responsible for social sins and injustice, for the wrongs and grievances of the age; and for this unfortunate position she must largely blame herself.

She has arrogated functions which are not her own; she has made promises for which there is no written word of Scripture.

It should be remembered, for instance, that the state is quite as purely a divine institution as is the Church.

It is for the state to secure social reconstruction when necessary; it is for the state to punish offenders, and to secure by legal enactments and legislative processes the abolition of abuses, and the establishment of justice.

When the Church assumes functions belonging to the state, she involves herself in needless difficulties and places herself in a false position before the world.

More important still it is to ask what predictions of Scripture support the assertion that the Church is herself to introduce the kingdom of God.

She is certainly to promise the coming of that kingdom; she is even now to insist that her members shall obey its laws, but it is impossible for her to compel unchristian men to accept the principles of her Lord.

The church’s supreme function is to secure, on the part of individuals, wholehearted devotion and allegiance to Christ. It is for her to increase as rapidly as possible her membership and to extend in every legitimate sphere her benevolent influence; but the real blessedness of the Church and of the world awaits the personal return of Christ.


The hope of the world is not in a new social order instituted by unregenerate men; not a millennium made by man; not a commonwealth of humanity organized as a Socialistic state; but a kingdom established by Christ which will fill the earth with glory at the coming of the King.


Professor Charles R. Erdman, D. D., Princeton Theological Seminary The Church And Socialism MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary

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    CONTACT:  October 2009



    I’ve decided to post some of the material that I have. This material, is from the 5 volume set authored by, Thomas Hartwell Horne. The historical information, that T.H. Horne provides, on the beginning’s of the Bible, comes with ample historical secular historical reference.

    • The Point That I Want To Make Here Is That, The Current Gospels That We Have, Were In Fact, Written By The Apostles And Evangelists In The First Century. There Is An Abundance Of Empirical And Historical Records, From All Parts Of The Globe, That Give Witness To The Authenticity Of This Writings, From The First Century.

    • Now, It’s That These Greek Writings, And Their Copies, Where Sent -In The First Century, To All Parts Of The Known World, All Over! 

    • These Greek Copies, Subsequently Being Translated, Were Kept By Each Country, In Their Differing First Century Languages. These Languages, Upon Being Translated, In Fact, Give Witness To The The Exact Messages, Thoughts, Dates, Times, And Places, Of The First Century, Greek Speaking Apostolic Writers.

    • The Informational References That I’m Giving, Will In Fact, Cover a Couple Differing Points About The Authenticity Of The Current Christian Bible. Myself, Now Converted To Christianity, For The Past Thirty Four Years, And Therefore, Being A Former Roman Catholic- And I Might Add, I Was Born Into It, And I Had No Ideals Of Any Other Religions Other Than, What I Was Told Through The Doctrines Of The Church.  The Historical Information, In Which I’m Processing Now, Is To Let All Know- At Least From Me,- That The Roman Catholic Church Wasn’t In Existence In The First Century, Nor, In The Second Century.

    • Needless To Say, I Harbor No I’ll, Nor Hostility, Towards The Religionist, That Are Just That, “The Lost Religionist,” That Are Those, That Are Embraced Through The Deceptive Tentacles, Of False Traditions. My Love Towards Them, In Working To Bring To Them, The Biblical Truths, That The Gospel Of Jesus Christ Brings To All. This Basic Truth, Of faith In Christ, And In Christ Alone, Is Plainly Espoused In The Catholics, St. Joseph Bible.  

    • The Roman Catholic Church In Existence Today, Is Just Anther Traditional Religious Group, That Have Placed Their Traditional Beliefs And Practices, On The Same Spiritual Level As To Being Inspired, As the Christian Bible Is Inspired. This is FALSE! The Catholic Church Is By Far, One Of The Oldest False Religions Of Today.

    • The Christian Bible Stands Alone, As The Only Word From God To Man.

    • The Religious Roman Catholics Of Today, Have No Knowledge Of the Historical Roots Of Their False Group.

    • These Religious Practices, Are Similar Also, To The Current Practices, And Continual Beliefs, Within The Many Jewish/Gentiles Messianic Movements Worldwide. In Which They Practice, And Teach, That In Order, To Be A Complete, Full, Participating Christian, That One Needs To Continue In Part, The Observances, Of Rules, and Regulations,- Along With Their Modern Day Interpretation’s Of The Law’s Of Moses, And The Prophets.-That They Have Their Own Private Interpretations Thereof.

    • Which They Have In Fact, By Their Private Interpretations,- In Which These Interpretations Are Define By The Current Leaders With In These Groups, Whether Gentile Or Jew-  Superseded, All Of The New Testament Teachings About The “New Covenant

    • Of Grace.”  These is FALSE.

    • These Groups, Along With Others, That Have Their Denomination’s Traditional View’s Elevated, As Being Equal With The Inspiration Of The Christian Bible, Those, That Have Through The Years Followed Theologians Instead Of The Dictates Of Scripture, Are Also FALSE. Through, Their Own Selected Views Of How Scripture Should Be Interpreted, That Have In Fact, Created Another Gospel. Created Through A Theologian, or Theologians, Views Of Their Private And Selective Interpretations of Scripture, This Is False.

    • For One To Think That That Roman Catholic Church Of Today, Had Written The Protestant Bible, Is Unequivocally False!

    • The Roman Catholic Church Of Today Wasn’t In Existence In This Time Period.

    • It’s Very Clear In the Scripture In Acts 2:10, It Was The Day Of Pentecost When Peter Spoke Before The Multitudes, Three Thousand Were Saved, And Became Christians (Followers Of Christ), Verse Ten, Of The Second Chapter, Of The Book Of Acts States, The Jews, And Converts To Judaism, Were There Listening To Peter, They Were From Rome, Of This Group, Three Thousand Believed On Christ, And Became Christians. They Then, Those From Rome, Returned To Rome. These Were The “First Christians In Rome.” In Addition, These New Christian Converts Struggled, With Many Of The Same Issues That The Apostle Paul Addressed With Other New Converts Within This Same Region.

    • IMPORTANT: Rome, Was the Center Of The Known World. Problems Arose Within The Christian Elders And Ministers, It’s So Sad For Me, To Have To Write, That Just As Others In The Past, Took Their Eyes Off A Jesus, And Then Began To Elevate Their Self’s, As Being More Important Than Others, Forgetting, Totally! The Words Of Christ, “In One Being A Christian, One Becomes A Servant To All Men.”

    • Power, Money, Prestige, And The Control, Over The New Converts In Rome, Soon Lead To- Within A Couple Very Short Centuries,- A Total Corruption Of The Principles Of Christ Took Place, The Christian In Rome, Soon, They Had Become Apostate.

    • Those Who Left Christ, And The Apostle’s Teachings, Began Pagan Practices, Which They Brought Into Everyday Practice. This Same Sinful Corruption, Was The Sin of The Jews, That Jesus Renounced, Over And Over To The Religious Leadership, Telling This Same Corrupted Religious Leadership,That Their Father Was Satan, The Devil. John 8:44

    • Now, This Apostate Group Of Heretics, In The Rome Church, Exerted It’s Power Through Collusion With The Heathen Leadership, Within The All Powerful Roman Government. In Breaking Away Totally, Through The Coming Centuries, From The Other Christians, Forming It’s False Ideals Of Pagan Worship, As The Truth, Creating To This Day Volume upon Volumes Of Traditions, With Them Stating That They, Are The True Church, Becoming Known As, The Roman Catholic Church Of Today.


    • Power Absolutely Corrupts.  I Would Encourage All To Stop An Look Within One’s Own Communities. As This False Church Spread It Spread By Accepting Sinful Practices.

    • It’s First Sign, It’s First Billboard Was, “The First Catholic Church Of Rome.” (catholic meaning all)

    • I Cannot Begin To Emphasize To The Readers Of This Page, The  Absolute Importance, Of  A Follower Of Christ, To Remain A Servant To All Men. It makes No Difference, Were One Is Today, Stop, And With A Bended Knee, Call Upon The One, The Christ, And Then First, Become His Servant! He, Then, Christ, Will Enable You To Be His Servant, To All Men Through “Grace.” 

    • You Might Then Asked? What Is it That The Servant Should Do? The Answer Is Clear! “Go Into All The World, Teaching And Making Disciples For Christ.”

    • A Word Of Caution! To The Christian Followers Of Christ, And Remember, If You Call Yourself A Christian, And You Follow The Dictates Of A Theologian, In That,- You Perform In Your Everyday Christian Actions,- In The Way That A Particular Theologian Says Or Believes Is The Correct Way, or Modern Day Version Interpretation, Even Though One Can Plainly Read In The Scripture, That Christ’s Ideals, Are In Fact, Being Compromised.

    • Christians Follow Only The Bible, Not Theologians, Nor Traditions, And Most Importantly, No Other Books As Being From God To Man.

    • Do Not Let These Works, Such as, Those That Say, Come Join Our Church, And It’s Many Good Programs, In Helping The Community, Those That Hand Out Used Clothing, Food, Or Working On Someone’s House, Going On Cruise Liners, Over And Over, And Then To Call It Ministry. To Those That Have Allowed The Church To Become A Babysitting Service.

    • All Those Listed Are Good Works, Which The World Can Ably Do, The Christian Can’t Allow These To Be A Substitute, As To The Exactness, As Those Works Being, The True Meaning Of The “Commission Call, In Going To All ,And Making Disciples of The Lord, This Is The Call To All Of His Believers.”

    • Could One Imagine A Conversation With Jesus Going Something Like This. Jesus, In 2009 Saying, “Come Follow Me, And Be My disciple?” Oh No Jesus, I’m A Single Mom/Dad, And I Have More Important Responsibilities, Global Warming, Neighborhood Recycling, And You Know, I have my Children To Raise, And They Are All I Got, And I’m Going To Make Sure, They Have A Better Life Than I had.

    • Yet, Jesus Asking Another, I Have To Continue My Job, My Retirement Is Coming In 10 Years.

    • Another, I Have A Full Scholarship To This Great Secular Institution.

    • Another, I Have A Wife And Kids, Maybe After Retirement.

    • And I Guess The Favorite One of Today Is The So Called Missions Trips, Going Around, Visiting Different Countries, And Of Course, Doing Something In the Local Churches There, However, The Focus is Seeing The World.

    • The Christian Is Commanded By Our Lord Jesus to Go And Teach And Make Disciples.

    • Is The Answer “Yes Lord!, Or Will It Be… Maybe Next Year? In The Mean Time, Lord, I’ll Pickup Some Trash, Or Do Some Public Works, Or Paint Someone House, And Get A Pat On the Back For It. That Is Lord, If I Have The Time. 


        Back Again To the Topic Here


        • The Roman Catholic Church Of Today, Has In Fact, Copied The Apostolic Writers Of The First Century. Then, Furthermore, Have Added Volume Upon Volumes, of Paganistic, Heathen, Based Practices, Into Their Church Traditions. Thus, Therefore, Then Claiming, Their Sinful Traditions, Are Equally Inspired, As Our Current Christian Canon; “The Christian Bible, Including The Old Covenant/Testament, And The New Covenant/Testament.

        • They Have Composed -Their Current  Catholic Bible-, With The Exception Of The Apocrypha Books- From The Very Same Scriptures  of The Ancient Jewish Writers Of The Old Covenant/Testament, And From Christ, And The Apostles, And Evangelists, From The New Covenant/Testament.

        • The Christian Bible of Today Was Used Centuries Before The Catholic’s Copied The Very Same Texts And Added the Apocrypha Books, And Their Traditions. That’s Historical Fact.


            • The Christian Faith Is Based Solely On The Old Covenant/Testament And New Covenant/Testament Books, Which Is Our Current Christian Bible.

            • The False Church.

            • What Is A False Church? And, The Obvious, In Recognizing One.

            • The False Church Is Lukewarm, (Apathy) To The Teaching’s Of The Bible, Of Christ’s And The Apostle’s.

            • The False Church, The False Religion Will Always Appease Man’s Flesh, And  To His/Her Desires And Wants. In Conjunction, An Appeal To Man And His Accomplishments And Skills.

            • The False Church, Reinforces To It’s Members That They Are Incapable Of Not Sinning, As A Christian. Thus, Giving False Justification To Heretical Doctrines. That God Has Saved One, By Grace, And Then These, Of This Persuasion, Reason, That If You Sin, And Continue Therein, That You Are Guarantee To Still Go To Heaven.

            • The False Church Is One In Which They Refuse To Accept Biblical Truths As The Rule of Faith. They Have Instead Created Their Own Doctrines.

            • The False Church, Is One Name After A Theologian, Minister Or Man, Therefore Indicating To The World That They Are Followers of This Theologian’s, Ministers or Man’s  Beliefs And Practices.

            • A False Religion Will Try To Enter Other Ideals, Along With Their Interpretational Books, As Being  From God.

            • A False Religion, As Apostle Paul Indicates, Will Bring In Other Rules And Regulations, As Additional Requirements That One Has To Do, In Order To be A Christian.

            • A False Religion Will Introduce Doctrine That Is Contrary To The Basic Teachings Of The Bible. Some, As Examples:

            • 1. That To Be A Christian, One Must Speak in Tongues, Which is False,

            • 2. Another, That One Is Truly Saved When Baptized In Water.

            • 3. Another, That One Needs To Commit To Public Service, In The Helping Of The Poor And Downtrodden, That, If One Doesn’t Believe, That This Is Indeed A Part of Their Salvation Beliefs,They Are Not A Christian.

            • 4. A False Religion Will Introduce That In Order For One need To Be A Christian One Needs To Continue To Practice All, Or In Part, The Old Covenant/Laws Rules, Regulations, Along With Celebrations Of Feast Days.

            • 5. A False Religion Are Groups That Live Unto Themselves, In Isolated Societies.

            • 6.A False Religion Are Those Without A Biblical Structure, Of God-Ordained Leadership.

            • 7. A False Religion, Are Those Who Accept All, Within The Church As Being Christian, Even Though, That Are In Fact, Living Lifestyles, That The Bible Expressly Condemns, Publicly And Openly Within Their Church.


                This Article Below Is An Example, Suffice To Say, That Describes The Demonic Control Of This False Religion Historically. The Article/Record Below, Can Be Multiply, Over And Over, To Country’s Worldwide, That Had Let The Roman Catholic Church Become Their Local Religion, Therefore, Heathen, Pagan Practices, Were Included, And Thus, Incorporated, Into The Roman Catholic Church’s Expansionist Policies. 


                ROME SENT:

                Missionaries were sent to the West Saxons. Kings would convert their kingdoms to Christianity, then their successors covert the kingdoms back to Heathenry, and folks would lapse back to the old religion when the Church was not looking. But this was the beginning of the end for Anglo-Saxon Heathenry. By 633 CE, the last great stand of Anglo-Saxon Heathenry was to begin. King Penda, Heathen king of Mercia sought to conquer the other Anglo-Saxon kingdoms. Over the next 22 years Penda, the last great Heathen king in England killed the Christian kings Edwin, Oswald, Oswin, Ecgric, and Sigebert before he himself died at the battle of Winwæd in 655 CE.

                In 685 CE, Cadwalla took the throne of Wessex to become the last Heathen king.

                In 686, the Isle of Wight, the last truly Heathen stronghold was converted to Christianity, and King Cadwalla of Wessex converted to Christianity in 688 CE, baptized by the Pope in Rome.

                Thus was the end of ancient Anglo-Saxon Heathenry in England amongst the kings

                While the kings and ealdormen of the Anglo-Saxons were converted to Christianity, it was not quite the same Christianity as was practiced in Rome.

                Christ was portrayed as a Germanic hero.

                Heathen charms were converted to Christian uses.

                Heathen rites were converted to Christianity.

                Symbel, ritualized drinking rounds continued to be practiced, with the toasts being Christianized.

                And the sacred feasts continued almost unchanged.

                Temples were converted to churches.

                "When Almighty God shall bring you to the most reverend Bishop Augustine, our brother, tell him what I have, after mature deliberation on the affairs of the English, determined upon, namely, that the temples of the idols in that nation ought not to be destroyed, but let the idols that are in them be destroyed; let holy water be made and sprinkled in the said temples – let altars be erected, and relics placed.

                For if those temples are well built, it is requisite that the be converted from the worship of devils to the service of the true God; that the nation, seeing that their temples are not destroyed, may remove error from their hearts and, knowing and adoring the true God, may the more familiarly resort to the places to which they have been accustomed…….

                And because they have been used to slaughter many oxen in the sacrifices to devils, some solemnity must be substituted for them on this account, as, for instance, that on the day of the dedication, or of the nativities of the holy martyrs whose relics are there deposited, they may build themselves huts of the boughs of trees about those churches which have been turned to that use from temples, and celebrate the solemnity with religious feasting, no more offering beasts to the devil, but killing cattle to the praise of God in their eating, and returning thanks to the Giver of all things for their sustenance; to the end that, whilst some outward gratifications are permitted them, they may the more easily consent to thee inward consolations of the grace of God." (translation of The Letter to Mellitus of 601 taken from J. H. Robinson, Readings in European History, Boston, 1905)




                In the first letters, of our Christian Bible, written by the Apostle Paul, in 52 AD, were from our now, southern Greece, and were hand carried, to the northern Greece area, to the first believer’s, in Christ, in Thessalonica, and then onto the believer’s, in the Galatians’ regions.

                These first letter are of importance. Paul was over a thousand miles from Jerusalem at this time.

                Yet, in fact, the first letters, where to address this problem of the false Jewish teacher’s. They were teaching, that in order to be a Christian, that the new Christian, after their conversion had to in fact, continue to practice and to follow the Mosaic Law. This supposition of obeying the “Law,” Paul thoroughly renounces, in no uncertain terms, in his letter’s to the former, and latter see below.  

                The early church history plainly, and historically, gives all a clear picture, of those who proclaimed their love and devotion to “Jesus.” Their ultimate sacrifice was death. The Jewish false teachers, were in part responsible, for bringing many to their deaths, that believed in Christ, as the “Messiah.”

                Today, we use words to disagree, back then, they used death, to those who disagreed.


                The Ideal, That There Are Two Types Of Christians, Is False!

                This Ideal Originated With The Jews Who Refused To Accept The Message Of Christ.

                And That Message Was, That To be A Christian; That It Is Based On Faith, Faith, In The Promise Made By God, To The Gentile Man “Abraham,” Of The Promise To Come, And Not To The Works of The Law.

                These False Jewish Teachers Followed The Apostle Paul; To Thessalonica, And Then On To The Regions Of Galatia. These Jewish False  Teachers Were Teaching, That In Order To be A Christian, One has To Understand And Therefore, Practice, The Ancient Jewish Religion. Mainly The Law, The Prophets, And The Psalms. Then To Observe, And Practice, The Main Feast Days Rituals. If One Didn’t Practice, These Ancient Rituals They Were Not Considered a Christian.

                This Was The Teaching’s Of The False Jewish Teachers.

                For Those Who Are Under The Law.

                They Are Exactly As The Apostle Says, “Their Lives Are Lived, Under The Curse Of The Law.



                I Have Decided To Use “The New Living Translation,” For These Passages. As This Translation, Is For Those, Who’s Primary Language Isn’t English, For Their Understanding Of The Word, That Is, The Christian Bible.

                In Saying That, The Responsibility Of Reading The Bible, And Praying, And Therefore Asking God, For A Clearer Revelation On This Topic,- As Well, As On Any Other Doctrinal Truth, That One Is Seeking To Understand.- The Responsibility Is Ours.

                For Each Of Us, Have To Stand In The “Judgment!” And, To Give An Account?


                The Christian Bible, From The Book Of Galatians, In The New Testament. We Now, That Are In Christ, Are Under “Grace!”

                Gal 3:1 NLT – Oh, foolish Galatians! What magician has cast an evil spell on you? For you used to see the meaning of Jesus Christ’s death as clearly as though I had shown you a signboard with a picture of Christ dying on the cross.

                Gal 3:2 NLT – Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the Holy Spirit by keeping the law? Of course not, for the Holy Spirit came upon you only after you believed the message you heard about Christ.

                Gal 3:3 NLT – Have you lost your senses? After starting your Christian lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort?

                Gal 3:4 NLT – You have suffered so much for the Good News. Surely it was not in vain, was it? Are you now going to just throw it all away?

                Gal 3:5 NLT – I ask you again, does God give you the Holy Spirit and work miracles among you because you obey the law of Moses? Of course not! It is because you believe the message you heard about Christ.

                Gal 3:6 NLT – In the same way, "Abraham believed God, so God declared him righteous because of his faith."

                Gal 3:7 NLT – The real children of Abraham, then, are all those who put their faith in God.

                Gal 3:8 NLT – What’s more, the Scriptures looked forward to this time when God would accept the Gentiles, too, on the basis of their faith. God promised this good news to Abraham long ago when he said, "All nations will be blessed through you."

                Gal 3:9 NLT – And so it is: All who put their faith in Christ share the same blessing Abraham received because of his faith.

                Gal 3:10 NLT – But those who depend on the law to make them right with God are under his curse, for the Scriptures say, "Cursed is everyone who does not observe and obey all these commands that are written in God’s Book of the Law."

                Gal 3:11 NLT – Consequently, it is clear that no one can ever be right with God by trying to keep the law. For the Scriptures say, "It is through faith that a righteous person has life."

                Gal 3:12 NLT – How different from this way of faith is the way of law, which says, "If you wish to find life by obeying the law, you must obey all of its commands."

                Gal 3:13 NLT – But Christ has rescued us from the curse pronounced by the law. When he was hung on the cross, he took upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing. For it is written in the Scriptures, "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

                Gal 3:14 NLT – Through the work of Christ Jesus, God has blessed the Gentiles with the same blessing he promised to Abraham, and we Christians receive the promised Holy Spirit through faith.

                Gal 3:15 NLT – Dear brothers and sisters, here’s an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or amend an irrevocable agreement, so it is in this case.

                Gal 3:16 NLT – God gave the promise to Abraham and his child. And notice that it doesn’t say the promise was to his children, as if it meant many descendants. But the promise was to his child–and that, of course, means Christ.

                Gal 3:17 NLT – This is what I am trying to say: The agreement God made with Abraham could not be canceled 430 years later when God gave the law to Moses. God would be breaking his promise.

                Gal 3:18 NLT – For if the inheritance could be received only by keeping the law, then it would not be the result of accepting God’s promise. But God gave it to Abraham as a promise.

                Gal 3:19 NLT – Well then, why was the law given? It was given to show people how guilty they are. But this system of law was to last only until the coming of the child to whom God’s promise was made. And there is this further difference. God gave his laws to angels to give to Moses, who was the mediator between God and the people.

                Gal 3:20 NLT – Now a mediator is needed if two people enter into an agreement, but God acted on his own when he made his promise to Abraham.

                Gal 3:21 NLT – Well then, is there a conflict between God’s law and God’s promises? Absolutely not! If the law could have given us new life, we could have been made right with God by obeying it.

                Gal 3:22 NLT – But the Scriptures have declared that we are all prisoners of sin, so the only way to receive God’s promise is to believe in Jesus Christ.

                Gal 3:23 NLT – Until faith in Christ was shown to us as the way of becoming right with God, we were guarded by the law. We were kept in protective custody, so to speak, until we could put our faith in the coming Savior.

                Gal 3:24 NLT – Let me put it another way. The law was our guardian and teacher to lead us until Christ came. So now, through faith in Christ, we are made right with God.

                Gal 3:25 NLT – But now that faith in Christ has come, we no longer need the law as our guardian.

                Gal 3:26 NLT – So you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

                Gal 3:27 NLT – And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have been made like him.

                Gal 3:28 NLT – There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male or female. For you are all Christians–you are one in Christ Jesus.

                Gal 3:29 NLT – And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. You are his heirs, and now all the promises God gave to him belong to you.


                N. Oetker

                  The Christian Bible, is composed of two covenants, the former is “Old Covenant/Testament Hebrew Books.” The word Testament can be translated as Covenant also.

                  The latter is the New Covenant/Testament which has the word’s of Christ, the Apostles, and Evangelists.


                  The Bible, the first books and letters?

                  The question of authenticity and genuineness of the book’s and letter’s, of the Old and New Testaments.

                  The question as to the original Book’s and Letter’s of the Bible, and to there location now? and, or they even in existence?


                  ***Note The central thoughts should be, as to what we have today? The Bible. The question being, is what those inspired writers said, factual?


                  According to T.H. Horne’s monumental work on this very question, we have in fact now- at our disposal- a readily, quick references. The unusual perspective that Mr. Horne had, of his intentions, in the transmitting to us, here in the future, that of a continual reference, to the known early church writers, in the verification of his sources.

                  Simply an amazingly wonderful work, with and abundance of references. Truly, it’s what I have been looking for in further understanding the broadness of the universal faith, of Jesus Christ.

                  We-this modern day fast tract Christian of 2009, have been so limited, through a lack of understanding, of the vastness of our own world, and to the people, for which this Gospel was designed, and also, the opposition that it has in fact, meet through the centuries, and that opposition, is even of a greater degree now, in 2009.

                  The Good News, The Gospel, is a worldwide living, growing, evangelization, to the peoples of the world, who have yet to hear the good news about Jesus! the “Savor of the World.”

                  The trumpet’s blast, long and loud, through each century is deafening, compelling for those, within it’s glorious sound. 

                  The missionary call, the message, is to all, to come, to hear the message, of centuries old! come!

                  Into the arm’s of Christ! His loving redemption, peace, forgiveness, and love.

                  Come and be part of His family, His companionship, into which, we again are justified, before our heavenly Father.

                  As He, God, the Father, walked in the cool of the evening with Adam, so our heavenly Father now, walks with his children, that have experienced the new birth, into and through, Christ! They have been bought with a price, those, that have been redeemed, their repentant heart, are born anew, not into what one was before;  but now into a “Son of God!”

                  One who accepts Christ, is born into Christ. On becoming a Christian, “One is born again… into Christ!

                  “One is a New Creature In Christ.”  Then, most wonderfully, that which is love, holy, pure, and kind, leads you!

                  The new person in “Christ,” you! are lead into your purposed “Destiny.” 

                  You are His; “love” disciple, bringing to those- yet, who have not heard, yes, there are those yet- who haven’t heard this wonderful news, of being reconciled with God, the Father.  Amen, amen.


                  N. Oetker:

                  My interests below, began with, settling within myself, the very same question, that T.H. Horne wrestled with.  The authenticity of our current Bible, not only through the record of the Holy Brethren, but, likewise, through the Historical records, and of those who historically opposed the Christians.

                  And to show succinctly, that the Christian Bible of today, is, in fact, the writing’s of the first century: of Christ, the Apostles, and Evangelists’

                  *** Note: A blog writer- a non Christian- mocked one day writing, “provide the original letters or any book from the Christian Bible?”  I have said the following, so many times in my life, and that is, when certain things happened,- such as this blog writer-God had a plan working all along. I have been introduced, to a breathtaking world of study, that few have entered in. so..thanks blog writer! God can use anyone, no matter how hard one’s heart is toward Him.

                  *** Note: Eventually, demonstrating- through historical evidence,- that the Roman Catholic Church of today, weren’t the authors of our current canon

                  *** Note: Accordingly, that, when one will in fact, check historical documentations enclosed in the following,- in regards to the core points of Christianity,- in addition to it’s genuineness- these false religious groups, even those within mainstream Protestantism will be fact, plain to detect. An example being, such as one named the, “Central Church of The Lutherans,” which has continually disregarded the Christian Bible, as the rule of their faith, and to have allowed, man made, and in this case, outward sinful traditions, to be their rule, they have judged themselves, a false church.

                  Furthermore, any group, or organization, that claims to be Christian, and has allowed, their own traditions to become their rule of faith, instead of the Bible, is a false religion.


                  N. Oetker I have included the heresy of Prof. Eichhorne, that began through the miss interpretations, of different ancient manuscripts. later, there were those who try to imply that the Bible was not authentic, implying it was a good book, but one of myth.

                          ***Note Now, if one were to asked, why was the biblical attack centralized on the Pentateuch? the first five books of the Bible, the writings of Moses? and not the other writings, of the old Covenant?

                          I have included, in the following translation, again, this translation is the New Living Translation. I’m using this again, for the ease of understanding, for those who are new to the faith. This story by Moses, is where “sin” came into the world.

                          ***Note God tells the demon serpent in Gen. 3:15 that, through her offspring, will come one that will in fact, crush him, and all of his powers. Mankind will be redeemed, man’s sin will be removed, in order, that once more, man can have the relationship with his loving heavenly Father. Now, if those who oppose God, can make Moses’ writings of no consequence, a myth. Then that would mean, the death of Jesus, His sinless-life sacrifice, and His victorious Resurrection, would in fact, be a myth also. And that cannot be!


                          Gen 3:1 NLT – Now the serpent was the shrewdest of all the creatures the LORD God had made. "Really?" he asked the woman. "Did God really say you must not eat any of the fruit in the garden?"

                          Gen 3:2 NLT – "Of course we may eat it," the woman told him.

                          Gen 3:3 NLT – "It’s only the fruit from the tree at the center of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God says we must not eat it or even touch it, or we will die."

                          Gen 3:4 NLT – "You won’t die!" the serpent hissed.

                          Gen 3:5 NLT – "God knows that your eyes will be opened when you eat it. You will become just like God, knowing everything, both good and evil."

                          Gen 3:6 NLT – The woman was convinced. The fruit looked so fresh and delicious, and it would make her so wise! So she ate some of the fruit. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her. Then he ate it, too.

                          Gen 3:7 NLT – At that moment, their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they strung fig leaves together around their hips to cover themselves.

                          Gen 3:8 NLT – Toward evening they heard the LORD God walking about in the garden, so they hid themselves among the trees.

                          Gen 3:9 NLT – The LORD God called to Adam, "Where are you?"

                          Gen 3:10 NLT – He replied, "I heard you, so I hid. I was afraid because I was naked."

                          Gen 3:11 NLT – "Who told you that you were naked?" the LORD God asked. "Have you eaten the fruit I commanded you not to eat?"

                          Gen 3:12 NLT – "Yes," Adam admitted, "but it was the woman you gave me who brought me the fruit, and I ate it."

                          Gen 3:13 NLT – Then the LORD God asked the woman, "How could you do such a thing?" "The serpent tricked me," she replied. "That’s why I ate it."

                          Gen 3:14 NLT – So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, you will be punished. You are singled out from all the domestic and wild animals of the whole earth to be cursed. You will grovel in the dust as long as you live, crawling along on your belly.

                          Gen 3:15 NLT – From now on, you and the woman will be enemies, and your offspring and her offspring will be enemies. He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." …


                          The Christian Old Covenant/Testament Bible English, composed of thirty nine books.

                          1834 Thomas Hartwell Horne Published his first four volume monumental work in the English language, in regards to the authenticity of the Bible.   

                          1823 Professor Eichhorne said that the two words “Elohim, and Jehovah.”  Which are found, and used, in the first five books of the Christian Bible. These first five books, being called the Pentateuch. He claims, these two words were written, by two different writers of the Pentateuch; furthermore, that a third person, then wrote the Pentateuch. He claims Moses, wasn’t the rightful author.

                          This Prof. Eichhorne, wrong assumptions, were embraced by a host of others, who were in fact, set against, the Christian Bible as being the only, true, God inspired writing’s, for man.

                          Later, in the 1900’s, “The Fundamentals,” were written by 100 top Christian writers, explaining all point of Christianity, in refutation to this cult arising from the Eichhorne heresies.

                              The writer’s of the Fundamentals had used, as one of their sources, the above of T.H. Horne’s monumental work in English, on the authenticity of the Bible.


                              Bible history: from T.H.Horne.

                              The Old Testament Books That We Have Today, Have Been Recognized Through Out All Of Known History.

                              375 AD. Old Testament was catalogued by Athanasis.     Recognized by Epiphanius and Jerome.

                              350 AD. Old Testament was catalogued by Athanasis.     Recognized by Origen.

                              330 AD. Origen, a defender of the faith, defends Christendom in his published work against the philosopher Celsus.

                              290 AD. Old Testament was catalogued by Athanasis.     Recognized by Melito, Bishop of Sardis.

                              290 AD. The Greek Translation took place at this time by: Aquila, Theodotion, and Symmalus.

                              180 AD. The Old Syriac Version translated by Peschito.

                              130-50 AD. Tertullian, another defender of the faith, defends Christendom to all.

                              130 AD. Justin Martyr, another defender of the faith, defends Christ’s miracles.

                              ***Note: 100 AD. Approximately 70 years passes from Christ’s death, and His Resurrection, until the last Apostle died. Now, the miracles of the Apostles through Christ’s name, were as notable as those of Christ Himself. These most notable miracles, were on going during the lives of the Apostles, until the end of their lives. We therefore, have testimony of a host of secular historical writers, and those within the church, and even those who were against Christ and the church. Further, the miracles of the early by Christ and and His followers were done in the general public arena. Thousand upon thousands were participants. Some of these eye witnesses and possible miracle recipient’s living past 100 AD. therefore, a possible continual giving of their stories.  

                              100 AD. Quadratus, a defender of the faith, defends Christendom in his famous letter to the then emperor Adrian, this letter recorded in part by Eusebius

                              75 AD. Philo, the Egyptian Jew gave canonical authority to the Hebrew Bible.

                              60 AD. Josephus, a Jewish priest notes that the quotes from the New Testament books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, 1st and 2nd Corinthians, and 2 Timothy, about passages in the Old Testament.


                              ***Note: Jesus quotes the same Old Testament writings, that we have today, surely, then, Jesus isn’t going to quote something that is fictitious.

                              ***Note 1491BC Moses left Egypt, from that time until the last book of the Old Covenant was written by Malachi between 436-420 BC. a time of a 1020 years passed. As noted by T.H.Horne, the Jews lived under Moses law for 1500 years. Observing their three national feast days: Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles. Thus, the law books were in with the Ark, which was guarded by one particular tribe of the people, as well as the remaining tribes.

                              This Law Book was the religious and political bases for their existence, and it was also the land rights of each tribe. All of societal rules, in regards, to their land rights, and, a whole host of other daily life observances.

                              These books were read yearly to the people, and copies were made, for each family had to know it, the fathers were thus charged to teach their children. So for as someone changing, this very public and well known books, is not likely to have happened.

                              Furthermore, this time period from Moses to Malachi, these 1020 years. As one can read, the Hebrew language became a dead language and then was translated into Greek, Syriac. The 1000 year period was catalogued by and with, Hebrew language markers, so it would most difficult, for one to be able know the markers, from a different or an earlier time period, therein one would be able to see, at what period something was written, by the lack of these earlier Hebrew language markers. Again, forgeries most unlikely. 


                              *** Note 282 BC. The Syro Chaldaic version was translated into Greek, by Jesus, son of Sirach, grandson.


                              *** Note The Bible listings below, included by T.H. Horne, Volume Two had also, the names of the translators and the place of printing.


                              *** Note The Alexandria Egyptian Jews, used this version, in their translation of the Hebrew text into Greek, which became the “Septuagent,” that we have today.

                              *** Note This Greek Septuagint, and the Latin Vulgate, with it’s New Testament writings, were translated into English, in the 1600’s.


                              This English version, was authorized by King James. Thus, becoming our “King James Version” of the Bible. However, there was in fact, an earlier English translation.


                              There was an earlier English versions of the Bible, in the 1535, by Tindal, and Coverdale.

                              Other translation of the entire Bible, in the 1500’s include:

                              1534 in German

                              1535 in French

                              1541 in Swedish

                              1551 in Danish

                              1560 in Dutch

                              1562 in Italian

                              1569 in Spanish

                              1581 in Russian

                              1529 in Helvetian dialect

                              1533 in the Lower Saxon dialect

                              1548 in the New Testament in Finnish with complete Bible in 1642

                              1553 in the Crotian language

                              1571 in Basque

                              1588 in Welsh

                              1589 in Hungarian

                              1584 in Wendish

                              1584 in Icelandic

                              1588 in the Pomeranian dialect

                              1596 in Polish

                              1593 in Bohemian

                              1599 in Hebrew of the New Testament

                              The above list was for Europe only, T.H. Horne also lists for Asia, Africa, and the Americas.


                              537 BC., 457 BC., and 444 B.C. Zerubabbel, Ezra, and Nehemiah, were those who in part, brought back the Jewish people to Jerusalem, from their Babylonian captivity.  It’s of note, that the Hebrew language, became a dead language at this time.

                               ***Note 537 BC. The Hebrews began speaking Chaldee and, or Greek.

                              538 BC., Babylonian captivity of the Jews because of their sin’s and rebellion towards God.

                              ***Note Jews in Palestine, needed a Chaldee paraphrase, in order to understand Hebrew.

                              *** Note Jews in Alexandria Egypt, needed the Greek translation, to translate their Hebrew Bible.

                              ***Note  All pure Hebrew was spoken, at the time of their, the Jews captivity 538 BC.. Now, one needs to keep in mind that the Hebrew Old Testament Scriptures, that we have today, are from those still, pure Hebrew writings.

                              634 BC. Pentateuch in existence 2 Chronicles 34:15, 34:21.

                              678 BC. 2 Kings 17:27 Samaria is to be restored, and the Jewish priest are sent from Babylon, to teach them the Laws of Moses.

                              912 BC. 2 Chronicles 17:9  Jehoshaphat King of Juda sent the Law Books of Moses around to all towns to teach the people.

                              1004 BC. Solomon regulated all of the Temple services written in Laws of Moses.

                              1042 BC. David, Solomon’s father did the same.

                              1061-1100 BC. Samuel the Prophet, did all according to the law of Moses.

                              T.H. Horne notes how incredibly difficult it would be, for the Jewish people, for whose whole lives revolved around the Laws written by Moses, and with their abeyance to them, for over 1500 years, for the directives within the laws, are most plane, for one to change them, would be almost an impossibility, for all that they owned, was governed by the laws within, their very houses, monies and lands, their families, were in fact dealt with within, they guarded these Laws above all else.


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                            I could write many things about the false Roman Catholic Church, however, as one, that was formally a Catholic. I know that it is very difficult, for a catholic, that is, without God’s Divine Grace intervention, to even want to hear anything, that is in opposition to the Catholic church.

                            Their indoctrination, through the schools, upon the children, is complete. Upon them reaching adulthood, they are conditioned thoroughly, to not think, in regards to their own faith, for oneself, to confer it rather, to the priest, are others, for they believe, erroneously, that they, the priest are the absolute, in regards to their religion.

                            For the most part, Catholics are woefully ignorant of their own church history, as I was.

                            I want to stop here for a moment, on this subject, and mentioned briefly, in how, one, can begin to set a person free, of cult involvement. With prayer, as we know in all things, yet, let’s first look at this dictionary explanation of a cult.


                            A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

                            The followers of such a religion or sect.

                              A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

                              The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.

                              A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.

                              Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing. The object of such devotion.

                              An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

                              American Heritage® Dictionary


                              ADJECTIVE: 1a. Intended for or understood by only a particular group: an esoteric cult. b. Of or relating to that which is known by a restricted number of people. esoterically

                              Upon one encountering a person, that is simply brainwashed, in which they’re  acceptance, of all, and everything, that they are told, by a particular group, is under the influence of a cult.

                              The key in unlocking the many locks, of the chains, that have imprisoned one, over an extended amount of time, is in fact a slow process, and yet, it’s not a guarantee of one hundred percent success rate, therefore though, it’s the beginning

                              This is a step by step endeavor, as one begins, this process of restoring, coherent thoughts to one imprisoned by cult beliefs. Most importantly,  a consisted method of repetition to them, in order, for them, to gain their own critical, cognizant, thinking, established again.

                              Continually asking them to explain each, and everything, that they are stating, in not so much, to put them on the defensive, but in order for them to think on their own, independently. It’s a very slow process, yet, it is key, for them to begin critical, rational thinking again, on their own.  Prayer is a must.



                            Suffice to say, I want to give this example, which I think is one the most egregious.

                            In the third century, the Christian’s in Rome, for the most part, had accepted and become like the heathen country that they resided in. “Rome,” was the capitol of the world, and so these corrupt Christian groups, began to exert it’s influence and power, over other weaker Christians of the faith. These Christian  leaders, embraced the heathen practices, of the Romans, in order to gain their support and influence, this included the Jews, as well as the gentile converts.

                            This corrupted form of Christianity, in part, had enlarged, to the point, that eventually, heathen Rome, made this corrupted form of Christianity, the state religion. We can read in the Bible, of many of the first century problems, of the early Christian believers.

                            Paul had written many letters exhorting, encouraging, and even, rebuking the early church. We can see that, most directly, by the letters sent to the first century Christians. One of these letters, was directed to Rome, specifically. In the New Testament Book of Romans 5:1, we can read of the corruption that was actually happening within the Christian believers already, and this, this horrendous act, wasn’t addressed sufficiently, by the local believers, until, the Apostle Paul had been written too about it from another family group of Christians, then the Apostle Paul wrote, and most severely, rebuked this so-called Christian, for having sexual relationships with his father’s wife.

                            This rebuke by Paul, is one of the strongest, that one, can place on a sinning Christian.

                            Needless to say, this was only a very short twenty years after the ascension of Christ. You can imagine that, three hundred years thereafter, after the departure, of the founding Saints of God.

                            The onslaught of Satan, against the Christians, the Christians, through Christ, had the only power, that could stand up too, and had in fact conquered, “Satan’s evils power, totally, that was over the entire human race!”

                            The Cross of Christ, Man’s redemptive  message, in how to return to the Father.  This Christian faith, this disciple-making worldwide phenomenon, had to be stopped.

                            The resulting redemption story, of man’s total victory, now! available to all, now!

                            Satan wanted this Christian religion poisoned, as he, Satan, had done with all proponents, in generations past, who had trusted in the God of: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.  

                            All one needs to do, is open up history and read for themselves. Secular historians, philosophers, haters of Christianity, will all give witness to Christianity, and it’s it’s truths, of how common people, enslaved with and by pagan practices for generations, forsook all for our Savor, “Jesus.” These Christians, under torture, and all types of flagellation, would not denied our Lord “Jesus.”

                            This is one of Satan’s techniques, see below.

                            There is one, I would like to mention. Rome had conquered, the known world of that time, and with it’s conquests, came the assimilation of pagan, heathen practices, with all of it’s magic art forms, and astrology’s. Many of the multitudes, of false deities worshiped, that was a common practice, within  all ancient heathen societies, and, that is practice, yet, today, it’s that of praying to their ancestors, PRAYING TO THE DEAD!,  in order, to gain favor in this life now. For if something, of ill, was to befall them, it was to a shaman, or an astrologists, or, to a male witch, a wizard, or to a female witch, to ascertain the spirits wants, in order to appease them, the spirits, so that all will be well here, now, or, also to confessed one sin’s to a priest, then in order to gain forgiveness, one would need to pray to a dead person or the mother of Jesus, how? by reciting a chant over an over to this dead person, such as saying the rosary.

                            Mother-god myths, praying to this mother–god deity, is common in all heathen, pagan cultures, past, and yet to this day.

                            This corrupt, Christian Roman third century state religion, which tolerated Christianity, had embraced most of all peoples, along with their heathen practices, in order, for this group to grow in power and strength.

                            This mother-god worship was included also in this Rome Christian church. The church’s position there had been to deceive, below, you will see how they have miss-applied the translation of their Latin Vulgate Bible.  Latin was the spoken language of the Romans. See below.      


                            The English word “it” in Genesis 3:15 is translated as “he’,” however it could also be translated as the pronoun “she, or it.”

                            The Christian history of Jesus, through the prophecy of the Old Testament, by the ancient Hebrews writers, use the “he” pronoun.

                            There is only one person that was able to crush Evil’s Power, over man, that person, was “Jesus.” Jesus was foretold of in the ancient prophecies of the Hebrew Bible, of all that He would endure, on His way to Calvary’s tree. For, His sinless life’s sacrifice, was that that of totally crushing “Evil’s Dominion Power” over man. Totally defeating Satan. Now, that those who repent, can come to the Father, through the “Christ Jesus.”  

                            The Roman Catholic Vulgate

                            Latin Vulgate with English Translation.

                            Genesis 3:15


                            I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed:

                            she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.


                            inimicitias ponam inter te et mulierem et semen tuum et semen

                            illius ipsa conteret caput tuum et tu insidiaberis calcaneo eius


                            The now current Catholic English Bible has reversed this translation to “he.”

                            Yet, the Vulgate was used to give credence to the mother-god worship, which they changed, in order to have the “Immaculate Conception Theory,” about Mary, the mother of Jesus, being a God, having a sinless life, to be prayed too. This is the pagan heathen practice of old, praying to a pagan god named, mother-god.

                            By changing this pronoun meaning to “she,” two basic things are accomplished.

                            1. Giving this pagan practice authenticity, in order to have more people, to join the Catholic Rome Church, who practiced and believed this, and many other pagan beliefs, they now would have justification, for this pagan practice,  as being in the Bible. This, along with, praying to dead people, a common spirit worship practice now is common practice, with lightning of candles and prayers, a basic pagan practice.

                            2. This second point, is very insidious in it’s nature, in that, by having Mary, the mother of Jesus, to be the future Messiah, to crush the power of Evil, that which God promised to Adam, would happen in the future….then what is the purpose of Jesus?  Simply a sacrifice, thus opening the door, for those then to create their own elaborate secret rituals, unknown to the common people, spoken in Latin for centuries, then their creation of the order of the Sacraments, that then became, the correct and only way, one could have a proper preparation in going to heaven, and of course, all of these is to be administered only by the priest.

                            This created another “Gospel” just as Paul had said, if another should come….

                            Galatians 1:8  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

                            Galatians 1:9  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


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                            In the 1700’s are so, we can read about a religious fanatical group, which lay claimed, to a large following of believers. This group’s claimed, was by it’s practices, resulting in then said miracles.

                            For a more thorough account of this group many excellent articles can be read on the Internet.

                            In short, thousands flocked in France to the tomb, in 1727, of one named Jansen, who had given all to the poor, and finally died a pauper. His life, and his narrow theology, should be one lifted to saint hood, at least, said his followers.

                            The uniqueness, of this individual, was,- and I might add, that after reading from different sources,- there is one thing that all agree on. And, that is, what happened to his followers, by the thousands, upon them visiting his grave-site in France.

                            Was this, that upon gathering there they would display grimaces, and convulsions, and in,- as this author writes, T.H. Horne in 1830, in his refutation of the miracles, said to have occurred there, from the writings of “Campell On Miracles,” pp.170-181-. and the Encyclopedia Britannica.

                            that those,that were caught up, in these grimaces, and convulsions, were of such a disorderly and ridicules manner, that finally

                            Frances’s government put a halt to it. There, actually, were no healings, nor miracles, but many had these, grimaces and convulsions. They, the Jansenist, thought, that in fact, God’s healing power was there, and was touching their lives.  Needless to say, that, in fact, it was the opposite. This group, and it’s narrowed theology, and pretended actions, are no longer in existence. That these action’s mentioned, are the truth, in fact, to the testimony, of a falsehood. Which- the religious falsehoods- have in common, that they soon fall by the wayside, in the true believers, Christian life’s journey.

                            The true things of God will always be, they endure, they which are of God continue therein. There is no false, are miss leadings, in God. The things that our God is involved in, endure, they bring the results, He desires, and that is to, “Glorified His Son, Jesus,” and to bring to mankind, the knowledge and purpose of, “Calvary’s Tree!  This is! the only way of “Salvation for mankind.” In being reconciled with our God.

                            In 2009, as in the recent past, there are yet those, who have traveled hundreds, even thousands of miles, for a pretended movement of God. Yet, all one needs to do, is stop, and on a bended knee, with a contrite, humbled heart, asking, to be used, by our Loving Savor! 

                            “Asked! and you shall receive! knock! and it shall open!”


                            Missionary N. Oetker




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