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      A Review 2. The Preexistence of Christ

      • The Purpose Of This Review Explained.

            • As One Begins To Read my reviews, it might seem that I’m pointing at some very minor points. Indeed, the points in question, could be interpreted in many ways.

            • When I Began This Set Of 14 Courses, I was opened in my examinations of the material; yet, there were times that when I read things, I would stop and say to my self, "the Bible did not say that" or "The Full Christian Bible Of The Old And New Testament the Bible does not say,"

            • Moreover, As You Continue In The Reviews, you will see the introduction of non biblical material as reference sources. The logic introduced, through non inspirational material, leads in a subtle way, to the questioning Of The Current Translation Of The Full Christian Bible Of The Old And New Testament, as being Inspirational. Furthermore, and more particular, were talking about the Current Translation Of The Old and New Testament of the Christian Bible.

            • We are not talking about separating the Christian Bible, and this writer does just that, therefore, using another source material and not actually, the current Christian Bible Of Both the Old and New Testament Translation.

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              • Again, It was Only After Many Courses, that I realized the subtle error being perpetrated through the course  materials.

              • The  Course Author’s Assumptions and Stated Views, that this or that, is in all likelihood, what the Bible means to say, is placing one’s personal view above "Inspirational Truth," which is error.

              • In My Continual Setting Aside These Inward Red Flags Of Warning. I decided to act, by contacting the sponsoring organization, their reply was that they did not have time to read all of the course material. Yet, this same group posted it to their site, a very unprofessional action, to say the least.

              • While In The Courses I would have to stop, think and pondered, the material read, then I was tempted to go to other materials for their view of the material presented. The problem was that these other books and writings had rejected Christ as the Messiah. Finally, I stopped this questioning of the truth’s  presented in the Current Translated Form Of The Full Christian Bible Of The Old And New Testament.

              • Therefore, then, there would be the introduction of these "other materials," which I write about below, these "others" are introduced, as being of some evidential benefit, to his statements and assumptions about a subject.

              • It has been a couple years, and now I want to continue the reviews.

                  • I have had to come to a realization that, not only were some of the statements that I was reading in this course material incorrect, that eventually, that is, about three quarters the way through the courses, these patterns were repeated over and over, that raised in the reader’s minds, the suspicions, and doubts, and to questioned, the Current Translation Of The Full Christian Bible Of The Old And New Testament, and many of it’s verses, to be incorrect in it’s stated forms.

                  • The "Writer Leads One To Doubt," The Full Christian Bible Of The Old And New Testament, and that it could only be truly understood, with the knowledge, along with the belief’s, and practices of other traditional materials, and needless to say, it has to be duly noted here, that these "others," have to present, rejected "Christ," as the "Savior of the World,"  and that they also have rejected, that "Jesus is God." And Most importantly, have rejected the Current Translation Of The Christian Bible Of Both The The Old And New Testament As Being Inspired.

                  • It is of further note, to explain, that there are other religions that are most definitely, not Christian, yet, the writer uses their Bible, as his source material. Yet, the religious people, that uses this Bible, have translated it to be understood that the Messiah is not "Jesus. 

                  • Now, to another related subject,the understanding of interpretations of thought, it is with intensive controlled, that one needs to  maintain, in the keeping with the overall meaning of the sentence thought and the ideal it conveys, as it relates to the overall context.

                  • I myself, believe, that now, we have enough information within our subject languages of the Bible, that’s to say, a thought can now be transpose into English, no matter how complex it might be, it could require several sentences, nevertheless, it can be translated and fully understood in English. 

                  • All one needs to do is to insert multiples of thought, that speaks to that particular concept’s ideal.

                  • That resolves the generally understood thought-ideal, that the one English word, does not, or cannot convey.

                  • We have other religious groups that have translated the original text, to be used,  that blend more readily, to their own generally held view, of what something is, instead of the actual facts.

                  • One simply needs believe in the "Atonement" as it is foretold, in the The Current Translation Of The Full Christian Bible Of The Old And New Testament, then all would be resolved.

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                  • One Day, It Will Be So,

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                  •  "For Every Knee Shall Bow To The Lord ‘Jesus’."

                 

                 

                The Writer introduces these other traditional belief’s, where-as, he states that an average lay person, couldn’t begin to understand, these concepts Of God, according to this course author.

                  • Accordingly, this course author’s continual miss-statements, in regards to introducing other lines of thought, from other books as being the true meaning and explanations, of a whole host of basic thoughts about the current translation of the "Full Christian Bible Of The Old And New Testament truths."

                  • It is my opinion, that it is an attack, on the "Inspiration of the Bible," of the current translation of the "The Full Christian Bible Of The Old And New Testament," 

                  • Again, finally I had contacted the site and expressed my concerns, however, to my surprise, I received this feedback that they, did not have time to read the course author’s material.

                  • For the most part, it went unchecked, and the site continues today.

                  • Norman Oetker Missionary Reynosa December 2008

                   

                          There Are Fourteen Courses Under Review. 

                          Course Two

                          Dr. —— The course author’s name I have left out.

                          • The Courses Are Reviewed and given one at a time in this series. My review is added to each course. It is very helpful for one to look and read some of the other materials, I have posted on this site in regards to the ‘Fundamentals,’  for in that, one will see how the ‘Inspirational" ideal about the Bible was attacked, and over time, this unchallenged assumption, gained a foothold into Christian thinking. Eventually this error was addressed, by the corporate effort of the writer’s of the articles within the Fundamentals.

                          • Thanks be to God.  Norm

                          • The course material has been numbered by it’s paragraphs, and it is this number that is referenced.

                          • The entire course under discussion is at the end of my review.

                             

                            2. The Preexistence of Christ

                            Perhaps, before we begin this review, I would like to draw your attention to the meaning of Christology  please see below.

                            "Preexistence of Christ" is "Christology," it’s generally understood in this format stated below, of the "human and divine" co-existing in one person.

                            Christology

                            From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                             

                            Christology (from Christ and Greek -λογία, -logia) is a field of study within Christian theology which is concerned with the nature of Jesus the Christ, particularly with how the divine and human are related in his person. Christology is generally less concerned with the details of Jesus’ life than with how the human and divine co-exist in one person.

                             

                            In Fact, All That Deny The "Trinity of God" aren’t Christian and; furthermore, Any That Add Others To The God Head Aren’t Christian.

                            Consequently, to all those that have contrary belief system to the Bible, it is the basic understanding, that those, who in fact are Christians, are to teach and bring the clear Bible revelation to all.

                            It’s in that-when all have heard- that they, will decide to either accept by faith the Bible as it is or, to follow someone’s theology or private interpretations.

                            Furthermore, the Bible, is quite clear on the God’s revelation power to the Christian, the Believer, it is the the Holy Spirit of God that will teach the new believer, as he or she, studies God’s word, and meditates on it’s writings for the direction in one’s life.

                            Other writings of historical nature are beneficial to the over all understanding of the historically differing time periods, however, and most emphatically, these or other writings and traditions, from any group, cannot replace the "Bible.

                            The Bible, and the Bible only is "Inspired."

                            No denomination or private groups have the only or correct doctrine.

                            The Bible, God’s Book To Man, Can Only Be Understood By The Guidance Of God’s Holy Spirit. Further, it is God the Father,(first person of the Trinity) drawing one by the Holy Spirit, (third person of the Trinity) to the saving knowledge of Christ (the second person of the Trinity.)

                            Finally, and most emphatically, one does not need to have any particular educational expertise, one need’s not to be able to read or write to understand God’s plan for man. God has and will continue to use the ordinary to confound the wise. God will provide, for all to hear and understand His "Salvation Message," and again, as I have stated above, when one understands, He or She will decide.

                             

                            In addition, of the review of this course on the "Preexistence of Christ," I want to draw attention that in the 83 paragraphs below there is no mention of the "Trinity." This in itself is most revealing.

                             

                            Let’s briefly look at this word "Trinity" and see how it came to be.

                            From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                            Trinity

                            The early Christians first defined exactly how Jesus is related to God the Father in the fourth century. However, this definition had taken a long time to formulate. Many of the Christological controversies of the first four centuries of the common era had direct implications for later thinking about how the human and divine are related within the person of Jesus.

                            The Christological positions known as Arianism and Ebionitism – groups that in one manner or another denied the divinity of Christ – and other groups, in particular those that adhered to Docetism and Gnosticism, which denied the humanity of Christ – led the fourth and fifth-century Christians to affirm that Jesus is both fully divine and fully human.

                            The Christological controversies came to a head at the First Council of Nicaea (325), at which the church defined the persons of the Godhead and their relationship with one another. The decisions made at Nicaea were ratified at the First Council of Constantinople (381), after several decades of ongoing controversy during which the work of Athanasius and the Cappadocian Fathers were influential. The language used was that the one God exists in three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit); in particular it was affirmed that the Son was homoousios (of one substance) with the Father. The Creed of the Nicene Council made statements about the full divinity and full humanity of Jesus, thus preparing the way for discussion about how exactly the divine and human come together in the person of Christ (Christology).

                             

                             

                            For this reason, in the review below on the pre existence of Christ, one cannot leave this out, which in fact it is, it’s not mentioned in a meaningful way by the author.

                            There are scriptures sited, nevertheless, in this lesson there is no mention of the connection. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

                            Accordingly, at line marker 81, one get’s the impression that in the future that God Jesus is going to let all of earth be destroyed, when He Jesus, ceases to hold all things together.

                            Accordingly, the scriptures states something totally different, and that it is, that the "Father" is  the only one who knows this timed event, not Jesus, nor the Holy Spirit.

                            In addition, at creation according to the Bible, Genesis 1 states the Holy Spirit was in fact there, along with God the Father as well as Jesus.

                             

                            Additional note on this class, this course site on the Internet that I’m reviewing is generally for the Christian, not to say though that others couldn’t use it, It is a free site open to all.

                            Thus being open to all it needs to conform to generally accepted Christian doctrines, thus, it is that, the mis-directions, that this review was created, in order to bring to the general public, the importance of the inspiration of the Bible and it’s truth and to not accept that which is man’s opinion.

                            Furthermore,one of the hardest truth for people of the past and even today is in accepting the "Christ" is God. In as much, for centuries all believed in one God only.

                            Consequently, when Jesus said at the last supper that He now had a "New Covenant," and for all to partake of it, that he was God, was a most difficult situation for many to accept. Jesus told Paul to go to the Gentiles and give the message of "Salvation."

                            Thus, a paradigm shift was happening, now this problem of Jesus being God was not resolved totally in the early centuries of Christendom, for today there or those who believe (and I might add most incorrectly)  that Jesus is God and also is the Father and also is the Holy Spirit. They are not Christian.

                            I would introduce here as to just who is this audience in this particular course that is under review? For example, if I wanted to convince someone that had the belief in only one God, I could introduce Jesus as God, and if one did not know of the Trinity, or of other New Testament writings of the Father and Son and Holy Spirit relationship, one could present a compelling argument that Jesus in fact, is God by not mentioning the Son or The Holy Spirit.

                            Missionary Norman Oetker

                            December 2008 Reynosa Mexico

                             

                             

                            1. X The first topic pertaining to the preexistence of Jesus Christ is His position over all creation. The apostle John lived longer than the apostles and took care of the mother of Jesus. In fact, both of their tombs are in the same place: the city of Ephesus. John the Apostle was in exile on the Isle of Patmos, then was released back to Ephesus where he died and was buried. Mary was buried there many years before, but she would have had a lot of interesting conversations with John about Jesus. Ninety percent of John is not found in Matthew, Mark or Luke because John primarily focuses on Christ’s deity and gives us quite a bit of information around the final week, which the others do not.
                            2. X Matthew, Mark and Luke are called the synoptic gospels. Optic means "eye." Syn means "with." It is to look with the eye as though you are surveying the whole thing. As you look at Matthew, Mark, and Luke you are looking at the gospel from different perspectives. Matthew looks at it from the perspective that Christ is king; Mark, Christ as a servant; and Luke, Christ as the Son of Man. Technically, John’s Gospel is set aside.
                            3. X First of all, John’s Gospel is set apart from the other Gospels by time because the Gospel of John was written probably 60 years after the time of Christ. So there is a lot a time that goes by. Plus, John knew Christ better than any of the others. He leaned on His breast at the Last Supper and was the one to whom Christ committed the care of His mother. John was also known as the theologian of the early church—not Paul (which is sort of surprising). The early church fathers spoke of John as the theologian because he talked in theological terms. He likes to teach by contrast, which is a bit different than Paul who is a teacher’s delight because he gives reasons and causes and purposes and outlines it all very well. Therefore a lot of preachers like to preach the Epistles of Paul. They are much more easier to put together. John’s are a little tougher. He teaches by contrast, which is very Jewish (the same way in which the Proverbs are organized: "The way of the wicked is like this; the way of the fool is like that.").
                            4. X For instance, the familiar contrasts of John are light and darkness. His epistles reveal the same thing. First John 1:5 says, "God is light and in Him is no darkness at all." He does the same thing in the opening chapter as he discusses who Yeshua ha Masheach is. Who is this one? He is going to do it by contrasts. Another great contrast in John’s writings is life and death, or love and hate ("He who hates his brother, does not love Him…." There is also the contrast between sin and righteousness.
                            5. X Interestingly you will find more words in John using the term, "believe" than any other book. Actually, the purpose of John is that you really believe who He is, for that is what is critical to the entire argument.
                            6. X The Gospel of John begins very differently than the other three Gospels. "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him and without Him was not anything made that was made. In Him was life." Notice the relationship with all those terms of contrast which are often blended together in comparisons. "In Him was life and the life was the light of men." When John says, light and darkness, light represents life and darkness represents death. Light and life represent righteousness. Death and dark represent sin. There is a connection in all these contrasts that he used.
                            7. X "In Him was life and the life was the light of men. The light shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehended it not," or did not overpower it. For it had no power to squelch it. "There was a man sent from God whose name was John." This, of course, refers to John the Baptist. "The same came for a witness to bear witness of the light."
                            8. Now we know that the light and the life and the Word all refer to a person. "That all men through Him might believe. He was not that light." That is, John the Baptist was not that light. But he was sent to bear witness of that light, Christ. That was the true light that lighteth every man that come into the world. How is a man enlightened? How do the lights get turned on in a person’s life, whether he is a believer or not? John 1:4 yields the answer. "In Him was life." There are certainly two kinds of life: physical and spiritual. All men have the light of God in them when they come in the world because they all have life from God. "The breath of the Almighty has given my life."
                            9. In Genesis 2:7, when God breathed into man’s nostrils the breath of life, the Hebrew word is plural. Literally meaning, "the breath of lives." Now there are two kinds of life that God breathed into man: physical and
                            10. spiritual. When God said to Adam, "In the day you eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall surely die," we know in the Bible’s account that Adam did not physically die that day, but he did spiritually die. That is why you can write to people who are physically alive and say, "You are dead in your trespasses and sins" (Ephesians 2:1).
                            11. Is everybody still with me? This is really heavy stuff. It is simple, but heavy. Yet that is typical John for you. When you learn Greek, the first book you will translate is 1 John because the words are so simple, however, trying to "understand the theology is very heavy. Every man has physical life, but look at this:
                            12. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. (John 1:10-11)
                            13. This refers to the Jewish people.
                            14. But as many as received him, to them gave he power [exousia] to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 12-13)
                            15. Then John takes us right back to verse 1 by saying, "And the Word" because John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word." The Greek word is logos, which is used in English all the time. This course is called Christology. It has the word logos in it. The study, or the word about Christ. There is also archaeology, the study of archae or "old things."
                            16. "The Word [this logos] was made flesh." Notice that it did not say, "the Word was made flesh dwelt among us. We beheld His glory. The glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth." Well let me tell you something. We just got a barrage of theological problems sent to us in a very simple verse.
                            17. First, in verse 14 when it says "the Word was made flesh," some translations say, "the Word was flesh." The Greek word is ginomai, which means "to become." It means a change of condition. It assumes a previous existence. Listen carefully to me, class. The preexistence of Jesus Christ is taught in John 1:14 when it says, "the Word became flesh."
                            18. Does it say that back in John 1:1 when it says, the Word was God? That He became God? No. It does not. It says He was God, and there is a big difference. In John 1:14, however, this Word, "became flesh," which means that He was in existence before He became flesh and that He was not flesh before He became it. So what was He before He became flesh?
                            19. John 4:24 says, "God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth." He is first spirit, then He becomes flesh, but He is described as being the Word, the revelation of God. Whatever God is, the Word, the declaration of that is what Jesus is. Is Jesus a revelation of the invisible God? Absolutely.
                            20. The first point that I am talking about right now, is His position over all creation. Under that, I want you to see three things. There are three things under the subject of His position is over all creation. First, He is the revelation of the invisible God. Look down at John 1:18, "No man hath seen God at any time." He is invisible. He is the only begotten (there is that term again). You say, "What does that mean?" Hang on, because I will tell you in a minute. "The only begotten Son which is in the bosom of the Father." That is an interesting statement. "He hath declared Him." The word declare means "to manifest," or "to let it be known," or "to reveal," as we would say in English. He is revealed Him. The first thing that we say as we look at His position over all creation, is that He is the revelation of the invisible God.
                            21. Paul gives his testimony and tells how Jesus Christ chose him to show longsuffering and a pattern for those who would believe in 1 Timothy 1. Then he says:
                            22. Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, [be] honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. (1 Timothy1:17)
                            23. That is a testimony to Jesus’ deity, by the way, but He is called invisible.
                            24. By faith he [Moses] forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. (Hebrews 11:27)
                            25. One of the reasons that Jesus came into this world was to show us what God is like, because God is invisible. With your physical eyes you cannot see God. With the eyes of faith you can see a lot about God, and one day God is going to give you the privilege of looking on the face of His incarnate Son. Revelation 22 tells us that we will see His face. He is the invisible God. The word "invisible," is used five times of Him in the Bible.
                            26. Turn to Colossians 1. What are we talking about? He is the revelation of the invisible God. He reveals who God is.
                            27. Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things [preexistence], and by him all things consist [They hold together]. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell. (Colossians 1:15-19)
                            28. That is an incredible passage. Every image is a likeness, but every likeness is not an image. An image is an exact reproduction. If you see two twins, you would say that they look alike, but one is not the image of the other. Why is a son in the image of his father? When Adam begat sons in Genesis 5 it says they were in the image of Adam. This is genetically true. Your DNA is in the image of your parents. Let me say it again. Every image is a likeness, but not every likeness is an image.
                            29. In the case of Jesus, "He is the image of the invisible God." He is the revelation of the invisible God, but, number two, He is a complete representation of the invisible God.
                            30. In John 14:8-9, Philip said, "Show us the Father and it sufficeth us." In other words, "We’ll be happy if you just show us the Father." What an audacious, arrogant statement that was. Jesus turned to Philip and said, "He that has seen Me has seen the Father." He is the complete representation of the invisible God.
                            31. In Hebrews 1:3, another very important passage, it says of Him, "Who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person." The New American Standard Bible translates it as "exact reproduction."
                            32. Let me give you an example. If I had some clay up here and I had an instrument like a stamp. If I pushed the stamp into the clay and pulled it out, what is left is the image. It is the exact reproduction. It was the exact thing that was implanted in that. Now, if I have a piece of paper and try to just draw out of my mind what that image looks like, my drawing is a likeness, but it is not the image. The image was planted in the clay. Jesus Christ is not simply a likeness, but the image of the invisible God. That is quite a statement.
                            33. The third thing I would mention under His position over all creation, is that He is the special reason for the creation. Imagine creating it all for yourself. That is exactly what God did. You see, Colossians 1 tells you that. Have you ever asked yourself, "Why did God make us?" You can ask a lot of why questions. "Why did God make us?" Some people say, "Well, He needed somebody to love." No, He did not. The Father loved the Son. You are no improvement. Thank God He does love us, but that is not the reason He made you. "Well, He needed fellowship. He was lonely." No, He was not. The Father fellowshipped with the Son, and the Son with the Father, and the Spirit with the Son. What is the big deal here? Well then why did He make us? To glorify Himself. He did it because He wanted to. That is the only reason I exist. To glorify God. That is why the Westminster Catechism asked, "What is the chief end of man?" Its answer: "To glorify God and to enjoy Him forever." This is the reason.
                            34. Colossians 1:15 says, "He is the firstborn of every creation." The word "firstborn" is the word prototokos in Greek, and is used nine times in the New Testament. Now when you read "firstborn," what do you think? You think it is the one born first, right? You say, "I am a firstborn son. I was the first child my parents had." That is not the meaning of prototokos. Let me give you an example. In Romans 8:29, Jesus Christ is called "the firstborn among all the believers." Well, He was not the first one born from a standpoint of time. All of this in this room have been born after He was. It has to mean something more than that. Today’s class is preparing you for those guys who come by your house wearing white shirts and ties and riding bicycles. In case you did not know. Hebrews 1:6 says, "Again when He bringeth in the first begotten into the world." It is literally "firstborn," prototokos. He says, "Let all the angels of God worship Him." This is certainly an unusual firstborn child. How many of you are firstborn? Well, then you obviously want to be worshipped. How many of you are not firstborn child? Do we want to ‘worship them? No way.
                            35. It does not refer to the one who was born first. Prototokos is talking about the position. That is why this whole point is called "His position over all creation." He is the firstborn of all creation. He is the pre-eminent one. He is the priority. No one takes His place, and that is why God says, "Let all the angels of God worship Him." The Bible says that He who is the head of the church is the firstborn. No one deserves to be mentioned in the same breath.
                            36. Now in Revelation 22:8-9, the angel that was bringing God’s message, acting as an emissary or a servant boy for God. John is so excited that he falls down at the feet of the angel. The angel stops him and says "No, no, no, no. Worship God alone." But wait a minute. In Hebrews 1:6, it says of the firstborn that the Father brought into the world, "Let all the angels of God worship Him." There is only one conclusion. He is God, because otherwise He cannot be the firstborn over all creation. The only one who designed everything to praise Himself, the only one who designed all to glorify Himself, was God. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." If He is God, I understand this. If He is not God, the whole thing is crazy, and it does not make any sense at all.
                            37. It is another testimony—another way of looking at the testimony of the Bible to the deity of Jesus Christ. He is the firstborn over all creation.
                            38. What have we learned about His position over creation? He is the revelation of the invisible God. He declares, shows, and reveals who God is, because God is invisible. He became visible to show us what God is like. Second, He is the complete representation of the invisible God. You do not need to say, "Well you know, I did look at Jesus, but I’m kind of into Mohammed and Maimonides and a lot of other people. I would like to see all the aspects of who God might be." No! You have the wrong message. The message of the Bible is that when you come to Jesus, you have arrived. There is nothing else to learn. "All the fullness of God dwells in Him." "In Him are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge" (Colossians 2:3). Do you understand?
                            39. How stupid are all the churches that do not speak of Jesus. There is a church group that said this to me that, "Well, we worship the Father. That’s the only one you’re supposed to worship and we believe it’s blasphemy to worship the Son." No, it is not. The Father told you to do that.
                            40. Every father understands this. When you honor the son, you honor the father. People ask, "Can you honor Jesus too much and ignore the Father?" No way. He who has seen the Father sees it in Jesus. This is a problem. Is Jesus the Father? No. He is the exact representation of Him. You say, "My head hurts. It’s lunch. It’s going to get worse. We’re just warming up. It’s the first day. I want to go into underwater basket weaving. I don’t want to study this. I want something simple, man. I want to preach the gospel but I just don’t want to study and think."
                            41. This brings us to the second subject under preexistence. It is not only His position over all creation, but His power to create all things. Again in Colossians 1:16 it says, "For by Him were all things created."
                            42. "How many things were created by Jesus Christ?"
                            43. "All things."
                            44. You say, "Oh. Well, what about the galaxies?"
                            45. "It says ‘in heaven and in earth, visible and invisible.’"
                            46. "What about demons?"
                            47. "He did that too."
                            48. "What about the angels?"
                            49. "He created all the angels too."
                            50. "Jesus?"
                            51. "Yeah. He’s not the brother of Michael, or the brother of Satan which is the worse argument, or that He is Michael the archangel. No, He created the angels. All principalities and powers. Everything that you have ever seen or cannot see was created by Him."
                            52. Colossians 1:16 says, "All things were created by Him." The Greek word is dia, meaning "through His agency." Romans 11:36 says, "For from Him, out of Him, and through Him and unto Him are all things, to whom be glory forever." Everything comes from His creative hand, and it exists because He made it. All things are being worked after His own power. He is sustaining it all, and all things have their ultimate objective to glorify Him and praise Him. He is the God of all things. Everything that He made are not only made "by Him," but they are also "for Him." You were made for Jesus. I like that. You will never be complete, fulfilled, satisfied until you understand that your sufficiency is of Christ. You do not need anything else.
                            53. I get amused. Pastors all the time get mail from people who are offering things. Our radio ministry gets tons of stuff like that. It is just amazing to me. Everybody believes that you are not quite what you should be. They got something that will help you be what God wants you to be. Now that is the basic marketing strategy of most things that are Christian. "You need to attend our seminar or seminary in order to be the most fulfilled person. All of your dreams, ambitions, and your meaning and purpose in life can really be clarified in our special video series. It is only $29.95. And if you will send for your prayer hanky we will…"—on and on it goes. You know, I look at all this stuff and I say, "You know the whole marketing principle is wrong. The strategy is all wrong, because I already got everything in Jesus Christ my Lord." If you want to help me know more about Him, I would be interested in talking to you, but I am not interested in anything else because nothing is missing.
                            54. The other day a man asked me after church, "Have you received the second blessing?"
                            55. I said, "Yes sir."
                            56. "Oh, praise the Lord."
                            57. Then I said, "And the third and the fourth and the fifth."
                            58. He said, "Oh no."
                            59. I said, "Oh yes. Ephesians 1 says that I have been blessed with all blessings in Jesus Christ my Lord."
                            60. I have got everything. I have it all. It is amazing. By the time we are done with this course, if you do not love Jesus, then I have failed. This is the most wonderful person you have ever known in your entire life. He is that God that made you. He is the God who wants you. He loves you. He wants you to glorify Him, and He will fulfill your deepest needs. You can say it. It is okay.
                            61. In John 1:3, just to back it up, it speaks of His power to create all things. It says, "All things were made by Him." Listen to this one: "Without Him was not anything made that was made." Well, how was it all made? Go back to Hebrews 11 and it tells you, "Through faith we understand that the world were framed by the word of God" (Hebrews 11:3). It is another statement of His deity. Connect the passages. How did all things come into existence? By the word of God. He simply said it. In Genesis 1 you read multiple times, "God said, Let there be light." "God said, let the trees breathe." "God said, let there be light and an ocean and all that." God just has to say the word. And there it is.
                            62. The worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. I see this glass. Here is another glass. I will bet this was created from this. No, the Bible says that whatever came into existence, was not made from what it appears. Whatever you see in the physical, material universe had nothing to do with created the physical and material universe. Now that is not the way evolution! That is what we call creation ex nihilo, which is simply Latin for "out of nothing." In the beginning God created. The Hebrew word is barah. There was nothing. Evolutionists, even when they honor God, like theistic evolutionists do in certain Christian schools, are denying a clear statement of the Bible, that somehow God created the first thing and the process, but then it develops and becomes all of this. No! That is wrong.
                            63. I remember sitting in a class one day as they were trying to explain to me about why the sun, moon and stars only appeared on the fourth day. They could not have been created on the fourth day. I am listening to it. Their reason for that, is that we have to have the sun and stars to have the vegetation on the third day. Here y?
                            64. ""ou have got vegetation. You have trees bearing fruit on the third day of creation, but you do not have the sun,
                            65. moon and stars until the fourth day. They were doing a number about it. They felt the sun, moon and stars just appeared. There was some sort of foggy up in the ozone or whatever, you know. So it just appeared then. But they had to be in existence or you could not have the plant life. We all know that. Really? They said they just appeared. Yet God said He made them and put them in the sky on the fourth day. I am sitting here listening to this. Earlier he said the dry land appeared. So if he wanted to say the sun, moon and stars appeared, why did he not use the same word? Why did he say he made them on the fourth day? Why did he not just say they appeared on the fourth day and we would all be happy? The reason being is because He made them on the fourth day. They were not in existence in Genesis 1:1, when he said, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." No, it did not include the sun, moon and stars. People say, "Wait a minute. You have to have light in order to have vegetation because they are in their adult mature forms and if he planted the seeds, they would have to grow." No, that is not what the Bible says. The Bible says, "The first day He said, ‘Let there be light.’ And there was light." We do not need the sun, moon and stars for light. In the eternal city, the New Jerusalem in Revelation we will no longer have the sun, moon and stars for the Lord God will be all the light we need. There will be no night there, that is what I call light! People say, "Wait a minute. Light travels at 186,000 miles a second, it would have to go through space, and it would take 24 billion years to arrive at this planet." Oh I do not think so at all. When God said, "Let there be light," He diffused light in the whole system at once. "Well, that would be a miracle." That is true.
                            66. My blessed Lord Jesus Christ is the one who did it. All things were made by Him. It was His word and nothing that I see came out of previously existing materials. It was all ex nihilo, created out of nothing by my Lord.
                            67. When He did not create something out of nothing, He said so, but whatever He created the next thing out of He created first to start with. You say, "What are you talking about?" Well, take man’s body for example. He formed man’s body out of the dust of the ground, but He had already created the chemical elements of the dust. That is why when you die, your spirit leaves you, and you, in fact, return to the dust. Your body decays. Why? Because you are nothing but dirt. Amen. Might as well look at each other right now and say, "Do you know you are nothing but dirt? But God loves you anyway."
                            68. The Bible says that the Father pities His children (Psalm 103:14), because He is ever mindful that we are nothing but dust. That is chemically true. These chemical elements that are in the body that forms the body, where did they come from? From the soil.
                            69. "Who made the soil and those chemical elements?"
                            70. "God did."
                            71. "What did He use to make it?"
                            72. "Nothing."
                            73. "How can you explain that?"
                            74. "Through faith."
                            75. "Oh, we are just supposed to believe it?"
                            76. "Yes, because God said so."
                            77. "Well, that’s in the Bible. It was written by men."
                            78. The third issue is His providence in controlling all things. This one who came into the world as a baby in Bethlehem had been around through all the ages of time. He is working continually. As a matter of fact, He is controlling all things in the universe.
                            79. In Colossians 1:17 it says, "By Him all things consist." They hold together. Why do the world’s not clash? How do you explain orbiting of the planets? What is going on here?
                            80. In Hebrews 1:3, we read, "Upholding all things by the word of His power." You know one day that the Lord is going to let it all crash. The stars in the heaven will fall. The elements of the earth will melt and the whole thing is going to be blown sky high. Why is that going to happen? Because He will not hold it together anymore by His word. But by His word, He will destroy it with fire. He will cause the most gigantic explosion the world has ever seen. There is no movie theater that could possibly create in our minds the explosion that is going to happen. Words are used of thermonuclear destruction are in 2 Peter 3. The whole place is going to be blown sky high. Do not get real excited about Earth Day.
                            81. He sustains all the laws of the universe by His own power. He has been working night and day. The idea that He is taking a nap since Creation, because it said, "He rested," is wrong. He just ceased from His work of creation. He does not cease from His work of providence. He is still controlling. Providence means the control of all things. There is not anything that our Savior is not controlling, and has been long before He became a baby in Bethlehem.
                            82. The next subject is heavy duty: His presence in Old Testament times. We are not going to get into that, but I am simply going to tell you what we are going to study. First, we are going to study the uniqueness of the Angel of the Lord. We are going to tell you that we believe the Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament is nothing but the pre-existent Jesus Christ.
                            83. Secondly, we are going to discuss the understanding of the term, "Lord of Hosts" (Lord of Armies), which is used 236 times in the Bible. We are going to show you that the Lord of Hosts is none other than our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ, before He ever became a baby in Bethlehem.
                            84. We will also take a look at the use of plural pronouns in the Old Testament concerning the person of God. We will discuss the unity of New Testament writers as they discuss the relationship of Jesus Christ to the Father and His work previous to becoming a baby in Bethlehem.”

                             

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