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 N. Oetker….As a missionary, I’ve meet so many, through the years, that have failed to continue in what God had put in their heart to do. I’ve seen this first hand, in my own family, also.

We all choose.

On the international level, it’s appalling to see it.  I’ve asked so many, from around the world, at various times, and sundry places, about what God had called them to do, what God had put in their heart.

Their "Vision" from God.  

Many, just bowed their head, for they knew, and furthermore, have convinced themselves, that all is well now in their lives.  

And those, that didn’t have the call from God, for the most part, were unwilling to even asked, or to want to be part of what God has for them, for their own lifestyle at present, seems pleasant for them.

Here in Reynosa, I talked with an older person, who said he was a Christian. Within minutes, I asked Him this question, about the work that God! had called Him to do. 

 As we so many before him, they recognize immediately your question, and will say they haven’t moved forward with what God had put before them to do.

Then you will begin to hear, of other things that they have done or involved in. With them thinking, that these other things, will justify their reluctance to walk in faith, to walk in the "Light of the Vision," given to them by God.

The Light of God hovers over their lives now, allowing them at any given moment, to repent and begin anew in the light, in now, this renewed "Light," of the Vision from before.

In my daily devotional read, Rev. Oswald Chambers makes mention of this subject thus, promting me to include, with my thoughts, on this twenty nine December, 2009. 

 

Oswald Chambers

Oswald Chambers (1874-1917) was a Scottish minister and teacher whose teachings on the life of faith and abandonment to God have endured to this day.

This daily devotional is a collection of his teachings compiled by his wife into a daily devotional format. It’s presented here in the original English. His wife’s comments may be found in the Foreword.

We publish this with the prayer that Oswald Chambers’ teachings will help you grow in your walk with Christ.
 

DESERTER OR DISCIPLE?

"From that time many of His disciples went back, and walked no more with Him." John 6:66

When God gives a vision by His Spirit through His word of what He wants, and your mind and soul thrill to it, if you do not walk in the light of that vision, you will sink into servitude to a point of view which Our Lord never had.

Disobedience in mind to the heavenly vision will make you a slave to points of view that are alien to Jesus Christ.

Do not look at someone else and say – Well, if he can have those views and prosper, why cannot I?

You have to walk in the light of the vision that has been given to you and not compare yourself with others or judge them, that is between them and God.

When you find that a point of view in which you have been delighting clashes with the heavenly vision and you debate, certain things will begin to develop in you – a sense of property and a sense of personal right, things of which Jesus Christ made nothing.

He was always against these things as being the root of everything alien to Himself.

"A man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things that he possesseth."

If we do not recognize this, it is because we are ignoring the undercurrent of Our Lord’s teaching.

We are apt to lie back and bask in the memory of the wonderful experience we have had.

If there is one standard in the New Testament revealed by the light of God and you do not come up to it, and do not feel inclined to come up to it, that is the beginning of backsliding, because it means your conscience does not answer to the truth.

You can never be the same after the unveiling of a truth.

That moment marks you for going on as a more true disciple of Jesus Christ or for going back as a deserter.

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Spain, the Jews, and Moslems, Autonomy, Catholic, Protestant. MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary “The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO” Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

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Spain, the Jews, and Moslems, Autonomy, Catholic, Protestant.

N. Oetker:  Prophecy, that which is foretold of the future.

To start…On the beginning parts of the below narratives, and from various other accounts, we can see a narrow and possibly, a one sided picture begin to immerge, at least, at this brief introduction level.

Regarding the benefits of the Arabian’s culture into the various aspects of man’s developments from Asia, and then, along the southern shores of the Mediterranean through to Spain. The developments being within the various educational fields.

Yet, from a perspective of the uninformed, all might seem well. Yet, the Bible declares a judgement from God, on this branch of peoples, the descendants of Ishmael, prophecy DECLARES in Genesis 16:11-12. 

16:11. And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

 Genesis 16:12  And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man‘s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Thus, the Arabians, as well as others, trace their lineage to Ishmael, and proudly do so.

Moslems, a name given by a man, Mohamed, who could neither read nor write, but, who had others to write various things, at different times thus, creating a book named the Koran, a work in progress.

The followers, who were, and are, the soldiers of this religious group, simply killed all who would not submit to their religious viewpoint, that their Koran was the only true religion.

The more this criminal, terrorists group grew, and the more they pillage, murdered and destroyed.

For these, the followers of Mohamed had scarcely nothing, now they could murder, plunder, and pillage and have their victim’s all.

At first, these wild men that the Bible prophesied about, weren’t controlled by anyone, and by no one, as of yet today controls them.

The reward of their faithfulness to their leaders, these religious soldiers of Mohamed, was for them to rape the lands, in the killing of all who stood in opposition to their demands.

The fleshly, sensual, earthly, instant self gratification was their rewards, then if to die, then, as a soldier for their beliefs, all of their fleshly desires, would be meet,- fleshly, sensual, with women-  in their ideal of a future paradise.

 

In the meanwhile…..

The Writings of Christ, the Apostles and Evangelists, where circulated for hundreds of years prior to the Koran, throughout the Arabian lands as well as others.

The Old Covenant/Testament was translated in 200bc., from Hebrew Into Greek, this translation was called the Septuagint. This writing was completed in the northern Egyptian city of Alexandria.  And was known, to the southern Mediterranean countries, inhabited by the Moslem. All of these same countries, in addition, all of the known world of that era, was well aware of Christ, and the Christian movement, by the end of the first century.

Many of the first century letters written by the Apostles and Evangelists, had been rewritten and circulated throughout the regions, and it’s these letters,- from these various countries, that were written in their own dialects,- that the early scriptural collators, of the future sought out, in order to collate, with other similar, yet, different dialects, and, or, languages from other countries.

 It’s through these, the collation of these early writings, that we have in fact, the actual copied letters, where the ideals, thoughts, and expressions, used by the first century writers. These writings, in regards to Christ’s words, the letters sent from the Apostles, to the small, first family Christian groups, are identical to those that we have today.  

The New Covenant/Testament was translated into Arabic and it’s derivative languages in 1816ad. by N. Sabat and Rev. Martyn B.D. Lt. Col.Colbrooke, place of printing was Calcutta.* T. H. Horne vol.1  

In light, of the above mentioned biblical facts, the Moslems like all others had the gospel presented to them in diverse ways, and Mohamed, and those before him, choose rejecting the coming of the Messiah, and then later rejecting Christ, who is the Messiah.

The Moslem people of today, are no different, than any others, that reject Christ, and the Christian Bible, for in the rejecting of Christ, and God’s Bible, the Christian Bible of today. Man, in rejecting these, they reject God, and God’s plan of Salvation. Thus, they who do so, are lost to eternal perdition.

…….Babylon

Babylon, the remains of some forty miles from the Baghdad of Iraq today, was the height of all evil and wickedness, on the scale equal to the former Sodom and Gomorrah of the Bible. 

Listed below, is a comment from Easton in regards to two subjects, they need to be addressed, in part, for this article. This information is directly related to this subject at hand and, more particular, to me here in Reynosa Mexico.

*Babylon Easton’s Bible Dictionary

  The Babylon- (was about 45 miles south of Baghdad, Iraq of today 2009,)- mentioned in 1Peter 5:13 was not Rome, as some have thought, but the literal city of Babylon, which was inhabited by many Jews at the time Peter wrote. In Revelation 14:8 16:19 17:5 18:2

 

(Note: N. Oetker… This Babylon wasn’t the city of Rome.)

 

"Babylon" is supposed to mean Rome, not considered as pagan, but as the prolongation of the ancient power in the papal form.

 

Rome, pagan and papal, is regarded as one power.

 

"The literal Babylon was the beginner and supporter of tyranny and idolatry. This city and its whole empire were taken by the Persians under Cyrus; the Persians were subdued by the Macedonians, and the Macedonians by the Romans; so that Rome succeeded to the power of old Babylon.

 

(Note: N. Oetker The Roman conquers brought this evil to the city of Rome.)

 

  And it was her method to adopt the worship of the false deities she had conquered; so that by her own act she became the heiress and successor of all the Babylonian idolatry, and of all that was introduced into it by the immediate successors of Babylon, and consequently of all the idolatry of the earth."

 

Rome, or "mystical Babylon," is "that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth" Revelation 17:18

 

 N. Oetker… Eventually, upon the Roman conquers returning from their now newly conquered empire, and that being, the city of Babylon that is located in our now state of Iraq; henceforth, they brought this evil and it’s domain, to their city Rome, and, as it’s custom, included this evil to be worshipped, along with the others of conquered nations, that where returned to it’s capitol city also, Rome.  

I have stated in others articles in regards to this demonic relationship, that was then centralized in one area of the world, Rome. And, indeed, was accomplished by the gathering of all the then known evil that was worshiped from the four corners of the known world. This demonic evilness was harnessed centrally on planet earth, along with it’s priests and priestess’s, finally, and conclusively, established in the capitol of the world at that time, which was Rome.

Again, I have written, in regards to the first century Jews from Rome, that pilgrimage to Jerusalem, for their one of three annual feast days, as was their custom, and, as they were there, it happened to be the Pentecost celebration happening.

These Jews from Rome, ventured upon a speech given by the Apostle Peter. Eventually, they heard their language, in which others understood also, though they all were from differing areas of the world, and yet, they were understanding this singular speech being spoken by this Fishermen Peter. Each from a differing country understood in their own languages, what was being said.

Three thousand surrendered to the truth, that this Jesus, that Peter spoke about, was in fact the Messiah, the Savior, who was foretold of in the Old Covenant/Testament, to save all of mankind.

Those converted Jews then returned to Rome, thus, establishing the first Jewish-Christian group, to be there in Rome.

Furthermore, later, the Apostle Paul, who upon having a direct revelation from Jesus, then shared to all Jews and Gentiles alike, that the way of Salvation now, was open to all, and all, the Jew and the Gentile alike, those who, in accepting Christ as their Lord, and Savour, were now one in Christ, being one in Love, expressly stating that they were no longer “Two,” but, “One in Christ!” 

Galatian 3:28  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Withuout repeating myself entirely from numerous previous articles, this new group, the Rome Jewish-Christian Believers, encountered many first century problems, with their new faith, while living there in Rome, the capitol of the world. As we can witness by reading the letters of the Apostle Paul addressed to them and those to Greece, where also, the faith was beginning.

The Rome Jewish-Christians or at least a substantial part of them, their faith in Christ began to wane.

A note…..The Christian faith, along with it’s  conversion power, that the gospel of Christ brings to one, if that one, refuses to move forward in faith, as the Lord directs. Moving forward in faith, that is, according, to the Biblical truths that are evident in the New Covenant/Testament writings.

If these truths, aren’t acted upon by Christians, those who profess the Lordship of Jesus over, and in their lives,… soon the slippage, of going back, into the ways of evil will be become apparent.

A person thoughts will move toward a lukewarm position, a doubting of scripture, in regards to the Gospel truths. The Gospels declared by Christ, the Apostles, and the Evangelists.

This is what had happened, to a handful of Jewish-Christians who had returned from Jerusalem, who brought the faith, the way of Salvation, to this demonized city, Rome. 

Sad to have to report, that the true Jewish-Christians of that era, and of the following two centuries, are generally unknown to us, with the exception of their slaughter, in martyrdom, by the unbelieving Jews, heathen, and pagans, in which countries where in they resided. .

However, the Jewish superstitions, their man made rules and regulation, the Talmud, and other embellished, mythical writings, soon created a religious order, that embraced the demonized religions of other heathen and pagan lands.

This corrupt religious group, corrupted now, for some three hundred years after Christ. This religious group was composed of Jews and Gentiles.

By them simply stating, that they believed in a Christ, they had in fact, embraced other demonized religious practices also.

That they had a following, that they were the leaders to the world, by them being located in the capitol of the world, Rome.

In addition, by them accepting all the differing religions into their group, it was this compromise, that influenced Constantine, to declare this form of perverted Christianity, to be Rome’s national religion.

 Thus, following the Jewish pattern, of legalistic dogmas, with the sole intent, to control every aspect of one’s life.

The secrecy, mystical meanings, numerology, the Kahbalah, their own interpretations of religious issues. The various heathen and pagan practices, being legitimized within these group, within this false Jewish-Gentile pseudo Christian group.

Exploitation of those within their control, the threat of force against those who challenged their collusion with the evil Roman leadership.

Intimidation, perpetrated in various ways, culminating with their own elected religious King. The name that was given to this corrupt religious man was the “Pope.”

This is the history of the Roman Catholic Church.

The True History Of The Christians Of The Second And Third Generations Are Lost to Us. However, What We Do Have Is The Profane Historical Writings Of These First Three Hundred Years Of The Christian Era. These Profane Historical Writers Are At Awe, As To The Faith Of These Peaceful Early Christian Martyrs.  Yet, The Lord’s Record Of His Children, Is The True History Of That, That, Won’t be Lost. For These Early Martyrs Are Now Enjoying Their Heavenly Reward.

How I wish the stories that could have been written, that should have been written, of the true Christians of that era….what we have, as an historical record, is a gradual cessation of martyrdom per-say.

At the same time, an expediential growth of compromised religious institutes.  As a result, these compromised religious institutions, are what we now have the historical record of.

Autonomy is self rule. A King, is one that rules. If one is vaguely aware of Christian history, the Jewish people of old, wanted a king to rule over them, and thus, by desiring and doing so, fell from God’s protection in part.

Moreover, the people rejected God’s control over their lives. The Jewish people wanted to be like other peoples, like other heathen and pagan peoples. In short, that generation like previous Jewish generations grew tired and weary of trusting God about their future.

Their hearts, were hardened by the deceitfulness of rebellion’s growth. At the same time, this false sense of self awareness is rebellion’s robe. The want of self control, to decide their own destiny. In fact, the height of rebellion is, the will full disobedience towards God knowingly, willingly and continually.

Autonomy, this control over one’s own life and subsequently, to control others, is nothing short of the clarion’s call to rebellion.

 

Autonomy, it’s quite easy, it starts when one believes in their self, as the source of all that can be resolved, either in life’s difficulties, in which they think, they can solved or resolved, through the force of intelligence, or sheer will-power, along with the practical applications of sciences or other means.

Thus, this false religious group, this false Rome Jewish-Christian group soon had corrupted themselves to the point, that they had embraced all the tenets, all known sorts of pagan superstitious, gnostic beliefs.

This false religious group had totally debased themselves from Christ, and, established their own form of religion. Their religion was inclusive, and thus the demonic activity that was already in Rome greatly influenced this group, for they had embraced all of it’s various forms of evil.

History is clear, that many join this religious pseudo group in Rome, the capitol of the world, and thus, by it being the capitol, it began an attempt to have a central controlled religious capitol. To control all other Christian groups, to have others to come into this false belief system. Known today as the Roman Catholic Church.

The martyrs were dying by the thousands, and why were they dying? They would not renounce the name of Jesus, and their faith in Him, as the Savior of the World. However, Rome’s psuedo Jewish-Christian group increased in it’s memership by compromise.

It’s very clear at the beginning of the Christian church era, that there were no towns are city declared to be Christians. The early believers lived in different part of all cities, it was the Jews of Rome, as well as the Heathen, and Pagans, that sought them out, in order for them, the Christians, to deny the Lord, they only had to renounce Jesus, and then they, along with their wife’s and children would be released, yet, scores upon scores of Christians, would not renounce the Lord and suffered horrendously.

God’s Almighty Grace was there as promised by the Lord in Luke 12:12. to those who are to endure.

 What a glorious history that we have, and yet, as we will see, even this will be use in a most profane way.

History reads, that for the most part, martyring for Christ, would be coming general to close within the third and fourth century of the Christian era.

Moreover….

Autonomy, is the core of all Protestant local churches, they select who they want as their leaders. They appoint committees of all sorts, everything is controlled by themselves. They interpret the Bible the way they see fit, they adhere to what they want too.

This the Autonomous Protestant churches of America.

 The Protestant church’s rebellion is to the God of the Christian Bible, And to God alone.

Yet, and similar, to those of old, they have convinced themselves either by works or a legalistic platform, in which those that agreed with their viewpoint are welcome, and all others are to stay away.

This rebellious doctrine is centuries old, it’s author is Satan,

 the father of lies.

300 ad. The Greek Orthodox Churches with some one hundred and twenty five various localities being represented from Greece and other areas within proximity to Greece. This convocation of religious groups had indeed, become autonomous like the corrupt religious group of Rome, each, to one degree or the other had appeased the pagan and heathen rulers of the world. Their appeasements allowed them to meet, and move forward within their total autonomous different doctrinal religious platforms.

Tho Greek Orthodox church groups included, as a full participating member, the false Rome group also. How was that accomplished? Through Autonomy and Compromise.

Except for two doctrinal objections, that had nothing to do with Salvation, these, of this Greek Orthodox group, including this false Rome church continued, for a thousand years, as a participating partners and members.

Again, sad to have to say, the true Christians were not known, or not recorded at least. What we have is the historical records of a corrupt organization, the False Rome church, an as equally false is the Greek Orthodox groups.

The False Greek Orthodox of 2009 from the third century, is worldwide, and in America all Protestant or just about all, belong and agree in principle to the doctrine of the W.C.C. or World Council Of Churches. And without going into a lot of details, the falsity of the Greek Orthodox, W.C.C., and the Protestants is their refusal to accept the truths of the Bible, in their application within their own local churches, instead have settled for a form of Godliness, and by thereof denied God.

Today’s news tell us of the joining of in part, of some, of these two false groups, again these are the “The Roman Catholic Church and The Greek Orthodox.

 

Returning to core subject….

Hernando Cortez of Spain 1519 Conquered the Aztec Empire of Mexico City.

N. Oetker Time period below is roughly 400ad. through 1040ad. or otherwise noted.

Quote * From the earliest times, Jews mixed with Phoenicians had transported themselves to the coasts of Spain. A great emigration happened of both nations, to escape the resistless invasion and desolating fury of Nebuchadnezzar of 606bc..  

In the wide interval between that Assyrian king and Hadrian 113-138 ad. the Roman emperor, many adherents to the Mosaic law had exchanged the poverty or oppression, which they suffered in the East, to join their distant brethren in Spain ; which country abounding in gold and silver, formed the Mexico and Peru of antiquity.

Note: N. Oetker  The want of Gold and Silver, which in the future was taken from Mexico and Peru. Hernando Cortez 1519ad. Conquered the Aztec Empire of Mexico City.

The Emperor Hadrian transported no less than forty thousand families of the tribe of Judah, and ten thousand of the tribe of Benjamin.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

Quote * The activity, industry, and parsimony of the Jews have always proved highly favourable to the rearing of families and the accumulation of riches. Both their population and their wealth had augmented in Spain to a very extraordinary degree: but, during the last period of its Gothic kings, the vexations inflicted on them had also increased in a still higher proportion.

In the reign of Sisebut, ninety thousand Jews were subjected to a compulsory baptism : and the convocation of Spanish clergy had established it as a law, that such as had once received that initial rite should be compelled to the future observance of all those external forms and ceremonies, which were then numbered among the essentials of Christianity.

( Note: N. Oetker this tyrannical force was the pseudo, false, Rome Christian church that was establishing itself in Spain.)   

To enforce statutes of such enormous tyranny, modes of proceeding equally enormous were invented, and seven hundred years before the establishment of the tribunal of the dire inquisition, an inquisitorial persecution had been adopted and systematically exercised against the unhappy Jews.

Such was in Spain the preparation of materials, which the smallest spark was ready to throw into combustion. In the lapse of two centuries and a half, the Gothic conquerors of that country no longer resembled the fierce soldiers of Alaric; who had invaded Italy, sacked Rome, and marched victorious from the shores of Scandinavia to those of the Atlantic.

* Basnage Histoire des Juifs, torn. vii. c. 9. t Ibid, torn. viii. c. 13.

Quote * By a consequence, inevitable among barbarians carried along in too buoyant a tide of prosperity, they had, (invaded Spain, that is the Moslems) without divesting themselves of their primitive rudeness, adopted all the false refinements of the vanquished ; and passed at one fatal bound, from the innocence of poverty and ignorance, to the pollutions of wealth and luxury. The youth neglected the exercise of arms, the walls of their cities were allowed to moulder in decay: ostentatious parade, effeminate luxury, and amorous intrigue, were matters of pursuit and celebrity among the dukes and counts of Spain : and in these disgraceful avocations, King Roderic 710-713bc. himself outlived all his nobility;

Quote * his vices disgraced and contaminated the throne which he filled ; and his subsequent conduct affords an additional evidence, that the debaucheries of tyrants, in almost every instance, prove to be the real or the ostensible cause of their ruin.

* Mariana de Rebus Hispanise, 1. vi. c. 8. et seq. f Florian, Precis Historique sur les Maures, p. 22.

Quote * The peninsula of Spain had been conquered 710bc. whilst the house possessed the supreme dignity of Khalif; and when the sovereignty in Asia was wrested from that family, Spain welcomed a fugitive member of it, and gladly received him as her lord.

Contracted as the dominions of the house of Ummaiya now became, in comparison with that which it had once enjoyed, or with what the rival house of Alabbas possessed ; yet it proved itself by no means inferior to its former greatness, or to that of the Khalifs of Baghdad, in the promotion of literature and the encouragement of the arts.

Such empassioned admirers, indeed, were the Arabian princes generally of science, that their courts became the choicest abodes of the muses, both in the east and in the west; and, through the liberal aid of those princes, foreigners as well as natives attained the summit: of elegance in various arts.

Like Baghdad, Cordova soon became one-of the greatest cities of the globe, to which strangers flocked from every side for information and for wealth: whilst the agriculture, manufactures, and commerce of Spain, as well as of the other Arabian dominions, were so wisely encouraged and protected, as to enrich the states beyond all preceding examples which history affords.

It would be difficult to determine fully how much the modern nations of Europe stand indebted to the Arabs… (Note, the Moslems that conquered and kill all, that didn’t accept their religion, or to pay tribute)… for the introduction of the sciences and of the arts, so great and numerous are the actual obligations. Through them first came the mathematics; the medicine and astronomy of the Greeks; the Indian cyphers, with the use of them, as well as the science of algebra ; chemistry ; poetry, at least the measure and rhyme of the modern European versification ; the manufacture of paper, and probably that of gunpowder, as well as the mariner’s compass…

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

 

N. Oetker…. Cordova Spain in 600ad. became the Moslem capital of Spain. As one reads of the rich history of Spain, as explained in Britanica, it is clear that around 1300ad. the Moslems were no longer in control of Spain.

What we have now in power are the tenets of the false, corrupt, Roman Catholic Church, along with all of it’s superstitious beliefs.

These beliefs were from other pagan, and heathen religions, that where assimilated into their core doctrines, which enabled others that were either a pagan or a heathen, to be able to join with them on general core principals only.

Now, also living in country, were the Jews, who had rejected their own Hebrew prophecies, about the Messiah Jesus.

And the Moslems, now defeated living in subjugation, who had rejected all forms of religion, to the point that they believed, there’s was the true one, and that the Koran is the only truth.   

Hernando Cortez 1519ad. Conquered the Aztec Empire of Mexico City.

Thus, we have today in Mexico, many religious customs and practices which vary from state to state under the Catholic umbrella.

The Protestants for the most part, are viewed in the negative, the main point hinges on their want of money from the locals. It seems the locals view this differently, than they do in the giving to the Catholic Churches.

The Autonomous Protestant doctrine of self-rule, has allow much confusion in the presentation of the true Gospel story to the locals.

Now December 2009, having Bible and English class’s in the Prison here in Reynosa Mexico, my goal, as a missionary remains the same as in Asia and the US.  And that is to start from the beginning; from the Creation of the World, The Fall Of Man, The Promised Savoir, The Birth and Ministry of Jesus, His Death and Resurrection and then, His Ascension to the Right Hand of the Father.

One thing that I have learned, that just because one says they are a Christian doesn’t necessitate it to be so.

Love is from God. God gives one His love at one’s new birth into Christianity. God’s love is different from all that we as humans know.

His love working through us, is for us to endure all, to be gentle and kind to those who would in fact do us much harm. To demonstrate His love, in genuine affectionate caring to those who are in fact, the most hardened, or those despised by others, either by their wealth, their educational level, their possessions, the political persuasions, the medical conditions, their deformities, being incarcerated or free, homeless are to have all.

The Gospel message is to all and to all alike. The Unbeliever, The Lost Religionist, The Catholic, The Moslem, The Backslider.

For freely one has received from God, has received His eternal life, by a repentant heart, a belief in the Salvation message of His Son Jesus, the Christ, the Ascended Savoir.

In time, all of the world will bow their knee, to Him, Jesus, and Him alone, for Jesus is God, Jesus is the Savior of Mankind. To Him, all the Praise and Glory of man is due.

The Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

N. Oetker missionary for my Lord and Savior.   

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Koran

The Only True Faith

Quote: *The Koran frequently boasts of the situation of Arabia, as being placed in the middle of the world, for the more easy and rapid diffusion of the faith of Islam.  Arabia was certainly encompassed by the greatest and richest countries of antiquity. Towards the north, its deserts are contiguous to Assyria and Syria, that is, to Aram on both sides of the Euphrates, the earliest seats of civilization and power: on the south and east, a sea of no great extent divides Arabia from India; from Persia it is disjoined only by a narrow straight; and one equally narrow unites it in commerce with Egypt and Ethiopia. This advantageous situation, which Mahomet assumes as destined for the propagation of the only true faith, history proves to have been efficacious, from the earliest time, in very important transactions, both of war and of commerce. * Sale’s Koran, pp. 2,8.

The Arabian Features

Quote *From the dawn of recorded history the natives of Arabia have appeared with the same characteristic features;—men of open hearts and boiling passions, quick in apprehension, articulate and voluble of speech, with ardour to undertake great enterprises, and with a presence of mind and perseverance every way adapted to carry them into execution.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary of the Arabic MSS.

Wages of War

Quote: *It is a circumstance highly worthy of observation, that the ancient Arabian conquerors, like the victorious Mahometans of later times, left at home behind them, the native virtues of the deserts : instead of mild patriarchs, with their council of elders and the congregation of the people, they passed at one bound from simplicity to luxury ; adopted the vices of the vanquished nations, and speedily became the victims of their own wretched passions.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

A Mirage

N. Oetker…. Mohamed, a man that could neither read nor write, yet, how was it that he was able to bring a few at first, and like being a mirage,- that which one sees yet, not being of substance, nor reality, and lacking truth, how was it?- to bring in the multitudes, with words? The innocents were the first to believe his words, and then their fathom ideals, in the planting in their minds, that they where going to become the first and only true religion.

 As those do,- that are dying of thirst in the desert,- for they truly are convinced also that what they see is real! and not a mirage. So likewise, to the demise of the innocents, they believed and continue to believe a lie.

Language

Quote: *He eloquence of the Arabs, however extolled by Ferdausi, has served but little to illustrate their early history. Their first composition in prose, that remains to us, is the Koran of Mahomet. Their only domestic records consist of the remains of ancient poets preserved from one generation to another by oral tradition, and whose poems have been commented upon, by various expositions and notes and genealogies, the work of far later times, but all equally traditional. Although the art of writing was either unknown or at least but little practised among the Arabs, their language had early attained to great improvement, both as to the number of words and the precision of phrases, and the poorest among them had learned to express themselves in flowing and forcible periods. This distinction is doubtless primarily to be ascribed to their pre-eminence in liberty above other Asiatic nations. But it was augmented and confirmed by a singularity in their institutions, which deserves to be commemorated and admired. The cities of Hijaz along the Red Sea, as well as those of Yamen on the Indian Ocean, were staples of trade, carried on among distant and often hostile nations, under the protection of temples and superstition. These sacred cities, like innumerable others in the upper as well as the lower Asia, had their annual fairs of two months, distinguished by various sports and ceremonies, and particularly by intellectual competitions of poetry and eloquence; in which, under the eye of approved judges, as in the Olympic, and other sacred games of Greece, the candidates for fame disputed with each other the palm of those noble attainments.* In both countries, the high perfection even of unwritten language was the natural result.

The general introduction of writing leads to composition in prose: before this takes place, laws, religion, history, and genealogies are all taught and communicated in verse, which alone can be handed down with certainty from parents to children through a long chain of tradition. Mahomet himself could neither read nor write ; yet, to an Arabian ear and understanding, the wildest chapter in his Koran is stamped with the ineffable graces and resistless vigour of diction. It was promulgated by small divisions in the course of twenty-three years, as conjunctures and exigencies required : of this composition, which first infused into prose all the harmony and animation of poetry, great was the effect among a people, with whom the culture of eloquence had long been a national concern ; and who from nature, and habitual indulgence were peculiarly prone to the illusions of an overheated fancy. As the Athenians acknowledged inspiration in the forcible and flowing oratory of Gorgias of Leontium, and would have worshipped him as a God, so the Arabs,—men of still warmer minds—imagined that they saw the hand of the Almighty in the work of Mahomet. No uninspired mortal, they affirmed, is capable of wielding the vast fabric of their language. Mahomet boldly exhibited his Koran as a clear and perpetually existing proof of the divinity of his mission. This evidence, always open to examination, was the strongest, he maintained, that could be brought: it was a standing miracle totally superseding the necessity of every other.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

Virgin Mary Worship

N. Oetker… Virgin Mary Worship, this next section that I  have cut and pasted is of importance. One will soon recognize that Mohammed was a gifted speaker, and that the language, and the use of it orally in Arabic, was of a differing quality than that, of ours, that is, of English.  

From A singularly small city Mohamet, Mohamed his ideals and thoughts sprang forth.

Now, the Christians have a part here in history, and again, I think it’s worth noting that the Christians were doing fine, spiritually, that is, during this era, they were following the writings of Christ, the Apostles, and Evangelists.

However, the false churches of Rome and the Greeks Orthodox, were doing fine also, in their falsities, their superstitions, the veneration of Apostles, and other early church leaders.   

It bears repeating here, that the meaning of certain words needs a comment.

The words are autonomy and independent.

I’ve posted the current dictionary meanings. Now as you read through these definitions below, it becomes very clear of the words and their intended purposes.

 

1.

independence or freedom, as of the will or one’s actions: the autonomy of the individual.

2.

the condition of being autonomous; self-government, or the right of self-government; independence: The rebels demanded autonomy from Spain.

3.

a self-governing community.

 

Use independent in a Sentence

–adjective

1.

not influenced or controlled by others in matters of opinion, conduct, etc.; thinking or acting for oneself: an independent thinker.

2.

not subject to another’s authority or jurisdiction; autonomous; free: an independent businessman.

3.

not influenced by the thought or action of others: independent research.

4.

not dependent; not depending or contingent upon something else for existence, operation, etc.

5.

not relying on another or others for aid or support.

6.

rejecting others’ aid or support; refusing to be under obligation to others.

7.

possessing a competency: to be financially independent.

8.

sufficient to support a person without his having to work: an independent income.

9.

executed or originating outside a given unit, agency, business, etc.; external: an independent inquiry.

10.

working for oneself or for a small, privately owned business.

11.

expressive of a spirit of independence; self-confident; unconstrained: a free and independent citizen.

12.

free from party commitments in voting: the independent voter.

13.

Mathematics. (of a quantity or function) not depending upon another for its value.

14.

Grammar. capable of standing syntactically as a complete sentence: an independent clause. Compare dependent (def. 4), main 1 15.

Logic.

a.

(of a set of propositions) having no one proposition deducible from the others.

b.

(of a proposition) belonging to such a set.

16.

Statistics. statistically independent.

17.

(initial capital letter) Ecclesiastical. of or pertaining to the Independents.

–noun

18.

an independent person or thing.

19.

a small, privately owned business: The conglomerates are buying up the independents.

20.

Politics. a person who votes for candidates, measures, etc., in accordance with his or her own judgment and without regard to the endorsement of, or the positions taken by, any party.

21.

(initial capital letter) Ecclesiastical. an adherent of Independency.

independent of, irrespective of; regardless of: Independent of monetary considerations, it was a promising position.

History affords us a look, through evidences past through the centuries, into the very first Christian meetings in Nicea 300 ad.  

We have documented evidences through pagan writers, heathen historians, and others, that gives us, of our now future generations, another picture, quite clear of the Christians, of this same era.  Now to be clear, I’m talking most directly about the True Christian and the False Christian.

For the first three hundred years and more there was untold persecutions’ by Jews, heathens, and pagan leaders, against all who would confess the Jesus! was in fact the Messiah!

Incidently, a clear mark of debasement to all of Christ’s teachings, which heretofore have marred all of Christian history, by the declaration of emperor Constantine of Rome, in 313 ad.. Rome was then the capitol of the world, Constantine had Rome declared Christianity the state religion, which also embraced all others religions as well, as being acceptable.

Reader,… you need to remember the Christians are being by the hundreds of thousands at this time of history, yet, there is a group in Rome, that have appeased the local Roman world leaders, and have escaped death, torture, and persecution… why? ….Because they denied the faith and accepted other heathen, pagan, practices, as being acceptable, along with, and put into place within the writings of Christ, the Apostles, and the Evangelists, thus altering Christian dogma, corrupting it into all future generations.

The Greek Christians, for the most part consented likewise, by maintaining an acceptable attitude, towards ungodly conditions, that they in turn participated in part, as the false Christians in Rome did, they therefore were in concert with the Rome church.   

Even though the Greek Orthodox Church formally split in 1100ad. from the Rome church. Today December 2009, some of the Greek leadership ministers are reuniting with the Rome false church, as you can read on the local news.

This group, called the Greek Orthodox Church, is the very same that we have today, they were in concert with the Rome church, as well as others.

The Greek Orthodox Church split with Rome because of just a couple of doctrines, one was the worship of Mary, the Mother of Jesus, and the doctrine of Papal infallibility.

The Greek Orthodox Church in America is the WCC or World Council of Churches, these groups accept all faiths.

Now you will find all major Protestant, and all major Trinity Pentecostal groups accept and pledge allegiance to WCC stated doctrines and purpose. Simply look at their site.

The positions that they, the Greek Orthodox, and just about all other Protestant denominations have taken, is one of Autonomy.  Autonomy and independence are listed below

It becomes very clear that these various groups masked behind a veil of rebellion. It is one of fierce independence, at governing their own lives and no other outside forces are allowed to interfere. The sad part of it all is, that they have shut the door on God also. The individual man made created dogmas, are controlling millions of false Christians. Christians become false believers, when they reject all that is contrary to the plain writings of the Christian Bible.

And that is simply done when mature people, that say they are Christians, and then, therefore, do nothing in regards to reading the Bible, and furthermore, make no attempt in changing their lifestyle, that is in obvious disarray to the plain Bible doctrines. These, in name only Christians, are lead by others, who are only a form of Godliness, and having in turn, may have in fact, never known the truth of the Gospels of Christ.

They have embraced their religious dogmas, their denomination’s point of view, on all things religious. These ideals, along with their religious thoughts and understandings, that they have embraced, for the most part since childhood.  This is the mainstay of those that say, they belong to a Protestant group.

 

N. Oetker…Now as continue with our article under discussion of Mohamed. The author, Shakespear, this historian of the eighteen century captured the false idol worships, that was practiced in all of the known world.

Mohamed, who could neither read nor write, yet an elegant, and masterful speaker could easily stand forth and declare against all of the corruptions in idol worship, further declaring that he has the one true way, the True Religion.

And then begins to systematically gain the support of the less informed to be called the Musulman, or the  Moslems. 

To be cont…

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Virgin Mary Deception MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary “The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO” Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

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Koran

The Only True Faith

Quote: *The Koran frequently boasts of the situation of Arabia, as being placed in the middle of the world, for the more easy and rapid diffusion of the faith of Islam.  Arabia was certainly encompassed by the greatest and richest countries of antiquity. Towards the north, its deserts are contiguous to Assyria and Syria, that is, to Aram on both sides of the Euphrates, the earliest seats of civilization and power: on the south and east, a sea of no great extent divides Arabia from India; from Persia it is disjoined only by a narrow straight; and one equally narrow unites it in commerce with Egypt and Ethiopia. This advantageous situation, which Mahomet assumes as destined for the propagation of the only true faith, history proves to have been efficacious, from the earliest time, in very important transactions, both of war and of commerce. * Sale’s Koran, pp. 2,8.

The Arabian Features

Quote *From the dawn of recorded history the natives of Arabia have appeared with the same characteristic features;—men of open hearts and boiling passions, quick in apprehension, articulate and voluble of speech, with ardour to undertake great enterprises, and with a presence of mind and perseverance every way adapted to carry them into execution.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary of the Arabic MSS.

Wages of War

Quote: *It is a circumstance highly worthy of observation, that the ancient Arabian conquerors, like the victorious Mahometans of later times, left at home behind them, the native virtues of the deserts : instead of mild patriarchs, with their council of elders and the congregation of the people, they passed at one bound from simplicity to luxury ; adopted the vices of the vanquished nations, and speedily became the victims of their own wretched passions.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

A Mirage

N. Oetker…. Mohamed, a man that could neither read nor write, yet, how was it that he was able to bring a few at first, and like being a mirage,- that which one sees yet, not being of substance, nor reality, and lacking truth, how was it?- to bring in the multitudes, with words? The innocents were the first to believe his words, and then their fathom ideals, in the planting in their minds, that they where going to become the first and only true religion.

 As those do,- that are dying of thirst in the desert,- for they truly are convinced also that what they see is real! and not a mirage. So likewise, to the demise of the innocents, they believed and continue to believe a lie.

Language

Quote: *He eloquence of the Arabs, however extolled by Ferdausi, has served but little to illustrate their early history. Their first composition in prose, that remains to us, is the Koran of Mahomet. Their only domestic records consist of the remains of ancient poets preserved from one generation to another by oral tradition, and whose poems have been commented upon, by various expositions and notes and genealogies, the work of far later times, but all equally traditional. Although the art of writing was either unknown or at least but little practised among the Arabs, their language had early attained to great improvement, both as to the number of words and the precision of phrases, and the poorest among them had learned to express themselves in flowing and forcible periods. This distinction is doubtless primarily to be ascribed to their pre-eminence in liberty above other Asiatic nations. But it was augmented and confirmed by a singularity in their institutions, which deserves to be commemorated and admired. The cities of Hijaz along the Red Sea, as well as those of Yamen on the Indian Ocean, were staples of trade, carried on among distant and often hostile nations, under the protection of temples and superstition. These sacred cities, like innumerable others in the upper as well as the lower Asia, had their annual fairs of two months, distinguished by various sports and ceremonies, and particularly by intellectual competitions of poetry and eloquence; in which, under the eye of approved judges, as in the Olympic, and other sacred games of Greece, the candidates for fame disputed with each other the palm of those noble attainments.* In both countries, the high perfection even of unwritten language was the natural result.

The general introduction of writing leads to composition in prose: before this takes place, laws, religion, history, and genealogies are all taught and communicated in verse, which alone can be handed down with certainty from parents to children through a long chain of tradition. Mahomet himself could neither read nor write ; yet, to an Arabian ear and understanding, the wildest chapter in his Koran is stamped with the ineffable graces and resistless vigour of diction. It was promulgated by small divisions in the course of twenty-three years, as conjunctures and exigencies required : of this composition, which first infused into prose all the harmony and animation of poetry, great was the effect among a people, with whom the culture of eloquence had long been a national concern ; and who from nature, and habitual indulgence were peculiarly prone to the illusions of an overheated fancy. As the Athenians acknowledged inspiration in the forcible and flowing oratory of Gorgias of Leontium, and would have worshipped him as a God, so the Arabs,—men of still warmer minds—imagined that they saw the hand of the Almighty in the work of Mahomet. No uninspired mortal, they affirmed, is capable of wielding the vast fabric of their language. Mahomet boldly exhibited his Koran as a clear and perpetually existing proof of the divinity of his mission. This evidence, always open to examination, was the strongest, he maintained, that could be brought: it was a standing miracle totally superseding the necessity of every other.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

Virgin Mary Worship

N. Oetker… Virgin Mary Worship, this next section that I  have cut and pasted is of importance. One will soon recognize that Mohammed was a gifted speaker, and that the language, and the use of it orally in Arabic, was of a differing quality than that, of ours, that is, of English.  

From A singularly small city Mohamet, Mohamed his ideals and thoughts sprang forth.

Now, the Christians have a part here in history, and again, I think it’s worth noting that the Christians were doing fine, spiritually, that is, during this era, they were following the writings of Christ, the Apostles, and Evangelists.

However, the false churches of Rome and the Greeks Orthodox, were doing fine also, in their falsities, their superstitions, the veneration of Apostles, and other early church leaders.   

It bears repeating here, that the meaning of certain words needs a comment.

The words are autonomy and independent.

I’ve posted the current dictionary meanings. Now as you read through these definitions below, it becomes very clear of the words and their intended purposes.

 

1.

independence or freedom, as of the will or one’s actions: the autonomy of the individual.

2.

the condition of being autonomous; self-government, or the right of self-government; independence: The rebels demanded autonomy from Spain.

3.

a self-governing community.

 

Use independent in a Sentence

–adjective

1.

not influenced or controlled by others in matters of opinion, conduct, etc.; thinking or acting for oneself: an independent thinker.

2.

not subject to another’s authority or jurisdiction; autonomous; free: an independent businessman.

3.

not influenced by the thought or action of others: independent research.

4.

not dependent; not depending or contingent upon something else for existence, operation, etc.

5.

not relying on another or others for aid or support.

6.

rejecting others’ aid or support; refusing to be under obligation to others.

7.

possessing a competency: to be financially independent.

8.

sufficient to support a person without his having to work: an independent income.

9.

executed or originating outside a given unit, agency, business, etc.; external: an independent inquiry.

10.

working for oneself or for a small, privately owned business.

11.

expressive of a spirit of independence; self-confident; unconstrained: a free and independent citizen.

12.

free from party commitments in voting: the independent voter.

13.

Mathematics. (of a quantity or function) not depending upon another for its value.

14.

Grammar. capable of standing syntactically as a complete sentence: an independent clause. Compare dependent (def. 4), main 1 15.

Logic.

a.

(of a set of propositions) having no one proposition deducible from the others.

b.

(of a proposition) belonging to such a set.

16.

Statistics. statistically independent.

17.

(initial capital letter) Ecclesiastical. of or pertaining to the Independents.

–noun

18.

an independent person or thing.

19.

a small, privately owned business: The conglomerates are buying up the independents.

20.

Politics. a person who votes for candidates, measures, etc., in accordance with his or her own judgment and without regard to the endorsement of, or the positions taken by, any party.

21.

(initial capital letter) Ecclesiastical. an adherent of Independency.

independent of, irrespective of; regardless of: Independent of monetary considerations, it was a promising position.

History affords us a look, through evidences past through the centuries, into the very first Christian meetings in Nicea 300 ad.  

We have documented evidences through pagan writers, heathen historians, and others, that gives us, of our now future generations, another picture, quite clear of the Christians, of this same era.  Now to be clear, I’m talking most directly about the True Christian and the False Christian.

For the first three hundred years and more there was untold persecutions’ by Jews, heathens, and pagan leaders, against all who would confess the Jesus! was in fact the Messiah!

Incidently, a clear mark of debasement to all of Christ’s teachings, which heretofore have marred all of Christian history, by the declaration of emperor Constantine of Rome, in 313 ad.. Rome was then the capitol of the world, Constantine had Rome declared Christianity the state religion, which also embraced all others religions as well, as being acceptable.

Reader,… you need to remember the Christians are being by the hundreds of thousands at this time of history, yet, there is a group in Rome, that have appeased the local Roman world leaders, and have escaped death, torture, and persecution… why? ….Because they denied the faith and accepted other heathen, pagan, practices, as being acceptable, along with, and put into place within the writings of Christ, the Apostles, and the Evangelists, thus altering Christian dogma, corrupting it into all future generations.

The Greek Christians, for the most part consented likewise, by maintaining an acceptable attitude, towards ungodly conditions, that they in turn participated in part, as the false Christians in Rome did, they therefore were in concert with the Rome church.   

Even though the Greek Orthodox Church formally split in 1100ad. from the Rome church. Today December 2009, some of the Greek leadership ministers are reuniting with the Rome false church, as you can read on the local news.

This group, called the Greek Orthodox Church, is the very same that we have today, they were in concert with the Rome church, as well as others.

The Greek Orthodox Church split with Rome because of just a couple of doctrines, one was the worship of Mary, the Mother of Jesus, and the doctrine of Papal infallibility.

The Greek Orthodox Church in America is the WCC or World Council of Churches, these groups accept all faiths.

Now you will find all major Protestant, and all major Trinity Pentecostal groups accept and pledge allegiance to WCC stated doctrines and purpose. Simply look at their site.

The positions that they, the Greek Orthodox, and just about all other Protestant denominations have taken, is one of Autonomy.  Autonomy and independence are listed below

It becomes very clear that these various groups masked behind a veil of rebellion. It is one of fierce independence, at governing their own lives and no other outside forces are allowed to interfere. The sad part of it all is, that they have shut the door on God also. The individual man made created dogmas, are controlling millions of false Christians. Christians become false believers, when they reject all that is contrary to the plain writings of the Christian Bible.

And that is simply done when mature people, that say they are Christians, and then, therefore, do nothing in regards to reading the Bible, and furthermore, make no attempt in changing their lifestyle, that is in obvious disarray to the plain Bible doctrines. These, in name only Christians, are lead by others, who are only a form of Godliness, and having in turn, may have in fact, never known the truth of the Gospels of Christ.

They have embraced their religious dogmas, their denomination’s point of view, on all things religious. These ideals, along with their religious thoughts and understandings, that they have embraced, for the most part since childhood.  This is the mainstay of those that say, they belong to a Protestant group.

 

N. Oetker…Now as continue with our article under discussion of Mohamed. The author, Shakespear, this historian of the eighteen century captured the false idol worships, that was practiced in all of the known world.

Mohamed, who could neither read nor write, yet an elegant, and masterful speaker could easily stand forth and declare against all of the corruptions in idol worship, further declaring that he has the one true way, the True Religion.

And then begins to systematically gain the support of the less informed to be called the Musulman, or the  Moslems. 

To be cont…

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Protestant Deception MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary “The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO” Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

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 WANTED… A WRITER FOR A BOOK ON MY LIFE AS A CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY

CONTACT: normanoetker@hotmail.com  December 2009

 

 

 

Koran

The Only True Faith

Quote: *The Koran frequently boasts of the situation of Arabia, as being placed in the middle of the world, for the more easy and rapid diffusion of the faith of Islam.  Arabia was certainly encompassed by the greatest and richest countries of antiquity. Towards the north, its deserts are contiguous to Assyria and Syria, that is, to Aram on both sides of the Euphrates, the earliest seats of civilization and power: on the south and east, a sea of no great extent divides Arabia from India; from Persia it is disjoined only by a narrow straight; and one equally narrow unites it in commerce with Egypt and Ethiopia. This advantageous situation, which Mahomet assumes as destined for the propagation of the only true faith, history proves to have been efficacious, from the earliest time, in very important transactions, both of war and of commerce. * Sale’s Koran, pp. 2,8.

The Arabian Features

Quote *From the dawn of recorded history the natives of Arabia have appeared with the same characteristic features;—men of open hearts and boiling passions, quick in apprehension, articulate and voluble of speech, with ardour to undertake great enterprises, and with a presence of mind and perseverance every way adapted to carry them into execution.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary of the Arabic MSS.

Wages of War

Quote: *It is a circumstance highly worthy of observation, that the ancient Arabian conquerors, like the victorious Mahometans of later times, left at home behind them, the native virtues of the deserts : instead of mild patriarchs, with their council of elders and the congregation of the people, they passed at one bound from simplicity to luxury ; adopted the vices of the vanquished nations, and speedily became the victims of their own wretched passions.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

A Mirage

N. Oetker…. Mohamed, a man that could neither read nor write, yet, how was it that he was able to bring a few at first, and like being a mirage,- that which one sees yet, not being of substance, nor reality, and lacking truth, how was it?- to bring in the multitudes, with words? The innocents were the first to believe his words, and then their fathom ideals, in the planting in their minds, that they where going to become the first and only true religion.

 As those do,- that are dying of thirst in the desert,- for they truly are convinced also that what they see is real! and not a mirage. So likewise, to the demise of the innocents, they believed and continue to believe a lie.

Language

Quote: *He eloquence of the Arabs, however extolled by Ferdausi, has served but little to illustrate their early history. Their first composition in prose, that remains to us, is the Koran of Mahomet. Their only domestic records consist of the remains of ancient poets preserved from one generation to another by oral tradition, and whose poems have been commented upon, by various expositions and notes and genealogies, the work of far later times, but all equally traditional. Although the art of writing was either unknown or at least but little practised among the Arabs, their language had early attained to great improvement, both as to the number of words and the precision of phrases, and the poorest among them had learned to express themselves in flowing and forcible periods. This distinction is doubtless primarily to be ascribed to their pre-eminence in liberty above other Asiatic nations. But it was augmented and confirmed by a singularity in their institutions, which deserves to be commemorated and admired. The cities of Hijaz along the Red Sea, as well as those of Yamen on the Indian Ocean, were staples of trade, carried on among distant and often hostile nations, under the protection of temples and superstition. These sacred cities, like innumerable others in the upper as well as the lower Asia, had their annual fairs of two months, distinguished by various sports and ceremonies, and particularly by intellectual competitions of poetry and eloquence; in which, under the eye of approved judges, as in the Olympic, and other sacred games of Greece, the candidates for fame disputed with each other the palm of those noble attainments.* In both countries, the high perfection even of unwritten language was the natural result.

The general introduction of writing leads to composition in prose: before this takes place, laws, religion, history, and genealogies are all taught and communicated in verse, which alone can be handed down with certainty from parents to children through a long chain of tradition. Mahomet himself could neither read nor write ; yet, to an Arabian ear and understanding, the wildest chapter in his Koran is stamped with the ineffable graces and resistless vigour of diction. It was promulgated by small divisions in the course of twenty-three years, as conjunctures and exigencies required : of this composition, which first infused into prose all the harmony and animation of poetry, great was the effect among a people, with whom the culture of eloquence had long been a national concern ; and who from nature, and habitual indulgence were peculiarly prone to the illusions of an overheated fancy. As the Athenians acknowledged inspiration in the forcible and flowing oratory of Gorgias of Leontium, and would have worshipped him as a God, so the Arabs,—men of still warmer minds—imagined that they saw the hand of the Almighty in the work of Mahomet. No uninspired mortal, they affirmed, is capable of wielding the vast fabric of their language. Mahomet boldly exhibited his Koran as a clear and perpetually existing proof of the divinity of his mission. This evidence, always open to examination, was the strongest, he maintained, that could be brought: it was a standing miracle totally superseding the necessity of every other.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

Virgin Mary Worship

N. Oetker… Virgin Mary Worship, this next section that I  have cut and pasted is of importance. One will soon recognize that Mohammed was a gifted speaker, and that the language, and the use of it orally in Arabic, was of a differing quality than that, of ours, that is, of English.  

From A singularly small city Mohamet, Mohamed his ideals and thoughts sprang forth.

Now, the Christians have a part here in history, and again, I think it’s worth noting that the Christians were doing fine, spiritually, that is, during this era, they were following the writings of Christ, the Apostles, and Evangelists.

However, the false churches of Rome and the Greeks Orthodox, were doing fine also, in their falsities, their superstitions, the veneration of Apostles, and other early church leaders.   

It bears repeating here, that the meaning of certain words needs a comment.

The words are autonomy and independent.

I’ve posted the current dictionary meanings. Now as you read through these definitions below, it becomes very clear of the words and their intended purposes.

 

1.

independence or freedom, as of the will or one’s actions: the autonomy of the individual.

2.

the condition of being autonomous; self-government, or the right of self-government; independence: The rebels demanded autonomy from Spain.

3.

a self-governing community.

 

Use independent in a Sentence

–adjective

1.

not influenced or controlled by others in matters of opinion, conduct, etc.; thinking or acting for oneself: an independent thinker.

2.

not subject to another’s authority or jurisdiction; autonomous; free: an independent businessman.

3.

not influenced by the thought or action of others: independent research.

4.

not dependent; not depending or contingent upon something else for existence, operation, etc.

5.

not relying on another or others for aid or support.

6.

rejecting others’ aid or support; refusing to be under obligation to others.

7.

possessing a competency: to be financially independent.

8.

sufficient to support a person without his having to work: an independent income.

9.

executed or originating outside a given unit, agency, business, etc.; external: an independent inquiry.

10.

working for oneself or for a small, privately owned business.

11.

expressive of a spirit of independence; self-confident; unconstrained: a free and independent citizen.

12.

free from party commitments in voting: the independent voter.

13.

Mathematics. (of a quantity or function) not depending upon another for its value.

14.

Grammar. capable of standing syntactically as a complete sentence: an independent clause. Compare dependent (def. 4), main 1 15.

Logic.

a.

(of a set of propositions) having no one proposition deducible from the others.

b.

(of a proposition) belonging to such a set.

16.

Statistics. statistically independent.

17.

(initial capital letter) Ecclesiastical. of or pertaining to the Independents.

–noun

18.

an independent person or thing.

19.

a small, privately owned business: The conglomerates are buying up the independents.

20.

Politics. a person who votes for candidates, measures, etc., in accordance with his or her own judgment and without regard to the endorsement of, or the positions taken by, any party.

21.

(initial capital letter) Ecclesiastical. an adherent of Independency.

independent of, irrespective of; regardless of: Independent of monetary considerations, it was a promising position.

History affords us a look, through evidences past through the centuries, into the very first Christian meetings in Nicea 300 ad.  

We have documented evidences through pagan writers, heathen historians, and others, that gives us, of our now future generations, another picture, quite clear of the Christians, of this same era.  Now to be clear, I’m talking most directly about the True Christian and the False Christian.

For the first three hundred years and more there was untold persecutions’ by Jews, heathens, and pagan leaders, against all who would confess the Jesus! was in fact the Messiah!

Incidently, a clear mark of debasement to all of Christ’s teachings, which heretofore have marred all of Christian history, by the declaration of emperor Constantine of Rome, in 313 ad.. Rome was then the capitol of the world, Constantine had Rome declared Christianity the state religion, which also embraced all others religions as well, as being acceptable.

Reader,… you need to remember the Christians are being by the hundreds of thousands at this time of history, yet, there is a group in Rome, that have appeased the local Roman world leaders, and have escaped death, torture, and persecution… why? ….Because they denied the faith and accepted other heathen, pagan, practices, as being acceptable, along with, and put into place within the writings of Christ, the Apostles, and the Evangelists, thus altering Christian dogma, corrupting it into all future generations.

The Greek Christians, for the most part consented likewise, by maintaining an acceptable attitude, towards ungodly conditions, that they in turn participated in part, as the false Christians in Rome did, they therefore were in concert with the Rome church.   

Even though the Greek Orthodox Church formally split in 1100ad. from the Rome church. Today December 2009, some of the Greek leadership ministers are reuniting with the Rome false church, as you can read on the local news.

This group, called the Greek Orthodox Church, is the very same that we have today, they were in concert with the Rome church, as well as others.

The Greek Orthodox Church split with Rome because of just a couple of doctrines, one was the worship of Mary, the Mother of Jesus, and the doctrine of Papal infallibility.

The Greek Orthodox Church in America is the WCC or World Council of Churches, these groups accept all faiths.

Now you will find all major Protestant, and all major Trinity Pentecostal groups accept and pledge allegiance to WCC stated doctrines and purpose. Simply look at their site.

The positions that they, the Greek Orthodox, and just about all other Protestant denominations have taken, is one of Autonomy.  Autonomy and independence are listed below

It becomes very clear that these various groups masked behind a veil of rebellion. It is one of fierce independence, at governing their own lives and no other outside forces are allowed to interfere. The sad part of it all is, that they have shut the door on God also. The individual man made created dogmas, are controlling millions of false Christians. Christians become false believers, when they reject all that is contrary to the plain writings of the Christian Bible.

And that is simply done when mature people, that say they are Christians, and then, therefore, do nothing in regards to reading the Bible, and furthermore, make no attempt in changing their lifestyle, that is in obvious disarray to the plain Bible doctrines. These, in name only Christians, are lead by others, who are only a form of Godliness, and having in turn, may have in fact, never known the truth of the Gospels of Christ.

They have embraced their religious dogmas, their denomination’s point of view, on all things religious. These ideals, along with their religious thoughts and understandings, that they have embraced, for the most part since childhood.  This is the mainstay of those that say, they belong to a Protestant group.

 

N. Oetker…Now as continue with our article under discussion of Mohamed. The author, Shakespear, this historian of the eighteen century captured the false idol worships, that was practiced in all of the known world.

Mohamed, who could neither read nor write, yet an elegant, and masterful speaker could easily stand forth and declare against all of the corruptions in idol worship, further declaring that he has the one true way, the True Religion.

And then begins to systematically gain the support of the less informed to be called the Musulman, or the  Moslems. 

To be cont…

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Koran

The Only True Faith

Quote: *The Koran frequently boasts of the situation of Arabia, as being placed in the middle of the world, for the more easy and rapid diffusion of the faith of Islam.  Arabia was certainly encompassed by the greatest and richest countries of antiquity. Towards the north, its deserts are contiguous to Assyria and Syria, that is, to Aram on both sides of the Euphrates, the earliest seats of civilization and power: on the south and east, a sea of no great extent divides Arabia from India; from Persia it is disjoined only by a narrow straight; and one equally narrow unites it in commerce with Egypt and Ethiopia. This advantageous situation, which Mahomet assumes as destined for the propagation of the only true faith, history proves to have been efficacious, from the earliest time, in very important transactions, both of war and of commerce. * Sale’s Koran, pp. 2,8.

The Arabian Features

Quote *From the dawn of recorded history the natives of Arabia have appeared with the same characteristic features;—men of open hearts and boiling passions, quick in apprehension, articulate and voluble of speech, with ardour to undertake great enterprises, and with a presence of mind and perseverance every way adapted to carry them into execution.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary of the Arabic MSS.

Wages of War

Quote: *It is a circumstance highly worthy of observation, that the ancient Arabian conquerors, like the victorious Mahometans of later times, left at home behind them, the native virtues of the deserts : instead of mild patriarchs, with their council of elders and the congregation of the people, they passed at one bound from simplicity to luxury ; adopted the vices of the vanquished nations, and speedily became the victims of their own wretched passions.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

A Mirage

N. Oetker…. Mohamed, a man that could neither read nor write, yet, how was it that he was able to bring a few at first, and like being a mirage,- that which one sees yet, not being of substance, nor reality, and lacking truth, how was it?- to bring in the multitudes, with words? The innocents were the first to believe his words, and then their fathom ideals, in the planting in their minds, that they where going to become the first and only true religion.

 As those do,- that are dying of thirst in the desert,- for they truly are convinced also that what they see is real! and not a mirage. So likewise, to the demise of the innocents, they believed and continue to believe a lie.

Language

Quote: *He eloquence of the Arabs, however extolled by Ferdausi, has served but little to illustrate their early history. Their first composition in prose, that remains to us, is the Koran of Mahomet. Their only domestic records consist of the remains of ancient poets preserved from one generation to another by oral tradition, and whose poems have been commented upon, by various expositions and notes and genealogies, the work of far later times, but all equally traditional. Although the art of writing was either unknown or at least but little practised among the Arabs, their language had early attained to great improvement, both as to the number of words and the precision of phrases, and the poorest among them had learned to express themselves in flowing and forcible periods. This distinction is doubtless primarily to be ascribed to their pre-eminence in liberty above other Asiatic nations. But it was augmented and confirmed by a singularity in their institutions, which deserves to be commemorated and admired. The cities of Hijaz along the Red Sea, as well as those of Yamen on the Indian Ocean, were staples of trade, carried on among distant and often hostile nations, under the protection of temples and superstition. These sacred cities, like innumerable others in the upper as well as the lower Asia, had their annual fairs of two months, distinguished by various sports and ceremonies, and particularly by intellectual competitions of poetry and eloquence; in which, under the eye of approved judges, as in the Olympic, and other sacred games of Greece, the candidates for fame disputed with each other the palm of those noble attainments.* In both countries, the high perfection even of unwritten language was the natural result.

The general introduction of writing leads to composition in prose: before this takes place, laws, religion, history, and genealogies are all taught and communicated in verse, which alone can be handed down with certainty from parents to children through a long chain of tradition. Mahomet himself could neither read nor write ; yet, to an Arabian ear and understanding, the wildest chapter in his Koran is stamped with the ineffable graces and resistless vigour of diction. It was promulgated by small divisions in the course of twenty-three years, as conjunctures and exigencies required : of this composition, which first infused into prose all the harmony and animation of poetry, great was the effect among a people, with whom the culture of eloquence had long been a national concern ; and who from nature, and habitual indulgence were peculiarly prone to the illusions of an overheated fancy. As the Athenians acknowledged inspiration in the forcible and flowing oratory of Gorgias of Leontium, and would have worshipped him as a God, so the Arabs,—men of still warmer minds—imagined that they saw the hand of the Almighty in the work of Mahomet. No uninspired mortal, they affirmed, is capable of wielding the vast fabric of their language. Mahomet boldly exhibited his Koran as a clear and perpetually existing proof of the divinity of his mission. This evidence, always open to examination, was the strongest, he maintained, that could be brought: it was a standing miracle totally superseding the necessity of every other.

* Mr. John Shakespear, Professor of Oriental Languages to the Honourable East India Company’s Military Seminary: of the Arabic MSS.

Virgin Mary Worship

N. Oetker… Virgin Mary Worship, this next section that I  have cut and pasted is of importance. One will soon recognize that Mohammed was a gifted speaker, and that the language, and the use of it orally in Arabic, was of a differing quality than that, of ours, that is, of English.  

From A singularly small city Mohamet, Mohamed his ideals and thoughts sprang forth.

Now, the Christians have a part here in history, and again, I think it’s worth noting that the Christians were doing fine, spiritually, that is, during this era, they were following the writings of Christ, the Apostles, and Evangelists.

However, the false churches of Rome and the Greeks Orthodox, were doing fine also, in their falsities, their superstitions, the veneration of Apostles, and other early church leaders.   

It bears repeating here, that the meaning of certain words needs a comment.

The words are autonomy and independent.

I’ve posted the current dictionary meanings. Now as you read through these definitions below, it becomes very clear of the words and their intended purposes.

 

1.independence or freedom, as of the will or one’s actions: the autonomy of the individual.

2.the condition of being autonomous; self-government, or the right of self-government; independence: The rebels demanded autonomy from Spain.

3.a self-governing community.

 

Use independent in a Sentence

–adjective

1.not influenced or controlled by others in matters of opinion, conduct, etc.; thinking or acting for oneself: an independent thinker.

2.not subject to another’s authority or jurisdiction; autonomous; free: an independent businessman.

3.not influenced by the thought or action of others: independent research.

4.not dependent; not depending or contingent upon something else for existence, operation, etc.

5.not relying on another or others for aid or support.

6.rejecting others’ aid or support; refusing to be under obligation to others.

7.possessing a competency: to be financially independent.

8.sufficient to support a person without his having to work: an independent income.

9.executed or originating outside a given unit, agency, business, etc.; external: an independent inquiry.

10.working for oneself or for a small, privately owned business.

11.expressive of a spirit of independence; self-confident; unconstrained: a free and independent citizen.

12.free from party commitments in voting: the independent voter.

13.Mathematics. (of a quantity or function) not depending upon another for its value.

14.Grammar. capable of standing syntactically as a complete sentence: an independent clause. Compare dependent (def. 4), main 1 15.

Logic.

a.(of a set of propositions) having no one proposition deducible from the others.

b.(of a proposition) belonging to such a set.

16.Statistics. statistically independent.

17.(initial capital letter) Ecclesiastical. of or pertaining to the Independents.

–noun

18.an independent person or thing.

19.a small, privately owned business: The conglomerates are buying up the independents.

20.Politics. a person who votes for candidates, measures, etc., in accordance with his or her own judgment and without regard to the endorsement of, or the positions taken by, any party.

21.(initial capital letter) Ecclesiastical. an adherent of Independency.

independent of, irrespective of; regardless of: Independent of monetary considerations, it was a promising position.

 

 

History affords us a look, through evidences past through the centuries, into the very first Christian meetings in Nicea 300 ad.  

We have documented evidences through pagan writers, heathen historians, and others, that gives us, of our now future generations, another picture, quite clear of the Christians, of this same era.  Now to be clear, I’m talking most directly about the True Christian and the False Christian.

For the first three hundred years and more there was untold persecutions’ by Jews, heathens, and pagan leaders, against all who would confess the Jesus! was in fact the Messiah!

Incidently, a clear mark of debasement to all of Christ’s teachings, which heretofore have marred all of Christian history, by the declaration of emperor Constantine of Rome, in 313 ad.. Rome was then the capitol of the world, Constantine had Rome declared Christianity the state religion, which also embraced all others religions as well, as being acceptable.

Reader,… you need to remember the Christians are being by the hundreds of thousands at this time of history, yet, there is a group in Rome, that have appeased the local Roman world leaders, and have escaped death, torture, and persecution… why? ….Because they denied the faith and accepted other heathen, pagan, practices, as being acceptable, along with, and put into place within the writings of Christ, the Apostles, and the Evangelists, thus altering Christian dogma, corrupting it into all future generations.

The Greek Christians, for the most part consented likewise, by maintaining an acceptable attitude, towards ungodly conditions, that they in turn participated in part, as the false Christians in Rome did, they therefore were in concert with the Rome church.   

Even though the Greek Orthodox Church formally split in 1100ad. from the Rome church. Today December 2009, some of the Greek leadership ministers are reuniting with the Rome false church, as you can read on the local news.

This group, called the Greek Orthodox Church, is the very same that we have today, they were in concert with the Rome church, as well as others.

The Greek Orthodox Church split with Rome because of just a couple of doctrines, one was the worship of Mary, the Mother of Jesus, and the doctrine of Papal infallibility.

The Greek Orthodox Church in America is the WCC or World Council of Churches, these groups accept all faiths.

Now you will find all major Protestant, and all major Trinity Pentecostal groups accept and pledge allegiance to WCC stated doctrines and purpose. Simply look at their site.

The positions that they, the Greek Orthodox, and just about all other Protestant denominations have taken, is one of Autonomy.  Autonomy and independence are listed below

It becomes very clear that these various groups masked behind a veil of rebellion. It is one of fierce independence, at governing their own lives and no other outside forces are allowed to interfere. The sad part of it all is, that they have shut the door on God also. The individual man made created dogmas, are controlling millions of false Christians. Christians become false believers, when they reject all that is contrary to the plain writings of the Christian Bible.

And that is simply done when mature people, that say they are Christians, and then, therefore, do nothing in regards to reading the Bible, and furthermore, make no attempt in changing their lifestyle, that is in obvious disarray to the plain Bible doctrines. These, in name only Christians, are lead by others, who are only a form of Godliness, and having in turn, may have in fact, never known the truth of the Gospels of Christ.

They have embraced their religious dogmas, their denomination’s point of view, on all things religious. These ideals, along with their religious thoughts and understandings, that they have embraced, for the most part since childhood.  This is the mainstay of those that say, they belong to a Protestant group.

 

N. Oetker…Now as continue with our article under discussion of Mohamed. The author, Shakespear, this historian of the eighteen century captured the false idol worships, that was practiced in all of the known world.

Mohamed, who could neither read nor write, yet an elegant, and masterful speaker could easily stand forth and declare against all of the corruptions in idol worship, further declaring that he has the one true way, the True Religion.

And then begins to systematically gain the support of the less informed to be called the Musulman, or the  Moslems. 

To be cont…

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Why I say I’m a Trinity Pentecostal Christian Believer?MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary “The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO” Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.

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 The early believers in Christ,  the believers in the Apostles, the believers in the Evangelists, and their subsequent writings, were first named “Christian,’  in a certain place and time, as the New Covenant/Testament records, Acts 11:26.

The name Christian, from the Online Bible definition below states. 

…The name given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to the followers of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch. The names by which the disciples were known among themselves were "brethren," "the faithful," "elect," "saints," "believers." But as distinguishing them from the multitude without, the name "Christian" came into use, and was universally accepted. This name occurs but three times in the New Testament #Acts 11:26 26:28, 1Peter 4:16…

 

N. Oetker…

One of the many comments and inquiries, that people reflect on today, is, what is a Christian? how does one become one? and therefore, thereafter, how should one believe, and, or, interpret the New Covenant/Testament writings?

A sea of words have been written on this very subject, yet, it is quite easy, comparatively speaking, that is, to understand the “process.” The process of becoming a “Christian.”

Example…

As a Christian missionary, a tool,- in the sharing of Christ,- is the “speaking English class’s, used in Asia, and now, here in Reynosa Mexico.

I tell the students repeatedly, to not think in class. Just repeat things, that I put before them, of course, they are taken back, by that statement at first. And it’s repeated often. Yet, basic pronunciation techniques are learned, with the basics in positioning, for the: bilabial, labiodental, dental, alveolar, and velar sound productions. All vowel (basic six phonemes only, for entry level), along with all English diphthongs and glides.(mastering, the diphthongs positions, is the actual key for speaking quality English.) these sounds, are normally, spoken with ease, at the end of ten hours of class time, with two, one and half hour days, spread over a four week to five week period.

All consonants, along with all diphthong, and glides, and pronouns, with tenses, and especially the nouns: want, and need, the verbs, and grammar are taught, with no books used, no memorization, no notes, just speaking English. 

The obvious point to them, is that I’m trying to create, within them, a relax atmosphere. Yet, unknown to the student, a much deeper process is being renewed, and it’s this process, proceeding, unnoticed, undetectable to the student, that is in the end, a measurable, demonstrative quantity.

In this case, resulting in a spoken lingua. English. 

Yet, this- a spoken lingua- is but, a very small part, of the whole, that is available- in the learning acquisition- and, as a result, this un-tapped potential, for the most part, is unused, or under developed, thus, this creative ability, within a human host, is neglected, which I suspect reaches, to areas of an inward natural learning acquisition, howbeit, yet under developed, and not fully understood.

Yet, I have found this learning method to be true, within all, though.

All that is named above, is endowed within all humans naturally. Furthermore, there is very little learning actually happening in the class. This process is natural to all students, and through theses class’s, what has happened, through the years, doing this, as a missionary, is the tapping into this natural occurring phenomenon in learning.

Their skill-confidence is gradually improved, and, instead of being despondent, about their mistakes in language speaking. Their now, developed correct base, for the sound production, helps in their pronunciation ability,which now gives them the necessary tools, for self correction.

In the exploration of their new dimension, within the English language. This enabling factor helps them, to detect, and self correct, to in fact, continuing to teach themselves the spoken English language.

A note though, as with all, it seems there is a longing, along with a much stronger desire, to learn something new, “a new experience.” Yet, it remains, it’s always the basics first.

 

This very natural classroom setting evolution, is quite amazing to me. As I see the student,- upon being set-up to answer continual questions. How they respond in immediate English. I have to tell you, it just takes my breath away at times, to see their achievement, to their very natural responses, in their now second language.

Then they, the student, will catch themselves, and you can see the pure pleasure, on their beaming faces, as it sinks in, that they, have in fact, given a spontaneous response in English. Sometimes, I just continue with more of the same, for I want them, to trust, in what they now can do.

 N. Oetker…

I have given this example, as a means of explanation, to a very natural, inward process, of one becoming a “Christian.”

God has placed, within all of His creation, the desire to seek Him, God.

Amos 5:6  Seek the LORD, and ye shall live;…

Ezekiel 34:11  For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

Ezekiel 36:26  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

2 Corinthians 5:17  if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

It seems, that man in his quest for knowledge and understanding about God, simply be-fuddles, the simplest of understandings about God. The God, that has created all. 

It’s quite reasonable, for man to have realized, that he isn’t capable of understanding the things about his creator.

To understand,- that he can’t understand God,- all one needs to do is to look at all: the planet, sky, and stars, that are before him, in all, and in any directions! and then to himself, and to all others. God has created all!

How is it that one man, could or can, communicate with this all omnipotent, omniscience Being? The truth is? that man can’t!

For one, to begin to understand God, Jesus, and the Bible, a “process,” first begins to happen to a person, there is this drawing, by the Almighty, which is to all! 

This is “God’s, Great Love Demonstrated, By His Benevolent Gift To Man, That Gift Being Himself, Through The Triune Godhead, Which Is Revealed,

The Christ, “Jesus!” The Second Person Of The Trinity.”

 John 6:44  No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:…

 This drawing process, of the Father is to all, for all to come and to believe upon His Son “Jesus.”

God’s Salvation is given unequivocally, it’s given to all.

To to a few, or to the “elect only,” as some erroneous Christian denominations teach today, is a false ideal, a false statement.

John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believe in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Christ died for all  sinful mankind.

This drawing, this coming to the beginning of this realization, that God is in fact, trying to communicate with His creation. The key part in this element, of this drawing process, is called “Grace.”

In looking around now, in the world of 2009, there are many, many who aren’t Christians.

Yet, just as we were able to begin to understand the Triune Godhead, in the first century, by the appearance Of Jesus in history, for He said, He was God, And then furthermore, Christ tells us, that the Holy Spirit, was to come to the earth, after His Ascension to Heaven to sit at the Right Hand Of The Father.  

We, as a people, did’t understand the Trinity, for this word isn’t in the Bible, yet, we now, accept the fact, that it is so.,

Such is the on-going revelation of another word, it’s called “Grace.” Grace is the love, mercy, compassion for His creation, man. For Man, in his total depraved state of sin, in that depraved state, we can clearly see and realize God’s Grace, Love and Forgiveness, for in that depraved state God’s Grace abounds, seeking those that will worship him in Spirit and truth.

John 4:23 But the time is coming and is already here when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for anyone who will worship him that way.

 

This Grace came upon me in my life.

1. As with the example above, there was no thinking on my part, it just began, at a certain time and place.

I didn’t say OK, or pause in my life, and decide these spiritual things,  nor did I say, I’m ready to become a Christian.

God was bringing me into His classroom, totally unbeknown to me, through life’s circumstances. 

2. It was easy for me, I was just living life at that time, yet, without any recognition on my part. Divine Grace was there, all around my life. This Grace, was inwardly working on my depraved sinful state. 

3. As I was at this beginning stage, in this case, my case, I was reading a a small book named, “The Art Of Understanding Oneself,” by Cecil Osborne. This author was explaining this “process,” of one becoming a Christian. Surely, I thought, one has to do something worthy to be a Christian. This, that I was reading, was in my opinion, a “miracle,” if it happened, to those that I was reading about. I vaguely remembered thinking to myself, what a great honor, to be, an actual Christian. 

Yet, this couldn’t actually happen to me, for I knew, that I was’t worthy, to be in this love of Christ, to be virtually accepted as is, for me, it couldn’t be. In my depraved state of mind, I rejected and rejected this, totally.

To be a good, moral person, was all that was necessary, I thought and reasoned. Yet, as the days passed, and I continued, to look into this book, again, inwardly, there was a stirring happening, this was non other than that “Divine Grace" working on my stoning heart. An inward process, unnoticed, and undetectable, by me.

4. Then, within a short amount of time, an awareness began stirring within me, my mind was realizing, for a fact, that I, Norman Oetker, then 28 years old, was, in fact, separated from my my heavenly Father, God, that was in heaven. I was so sorry, sorry for my sins, and upon asking God, to forgive me, that indeed, for a fact, I was truly sorry, and please forgive me…

 It was at that very instance, upon those repentant words leaving my mouth, not only my mouth, but, they were words from my mind, and from my contrite heart.

In a twinkling of an eye, the Lord swept into my being. It was as though, there were two Norman’s there, one old and this brand new one smiling from ear to ear.

Distinct in my mind forever, was the Presence of the Lord’s Spirit. His Love was overwhelming, His acceptance was un-conditional, I was simply, and happily, smothered, in the Lord’s presence.

I had never read the Bible.

I was now a born  again Christian, a follower of Christ, oh! how I felt the love from Him, for it, His love, has never stopped for me. His Love, for me was what He shares with all of the millions, that have put their total trust! in Him as their Lord.

Upon reading the Christian Bible, this baptism of the Spirit that Jesus talked about, began becoming as real as well as all of the others actions described in the letters to the Corinthians.

John 1:29 ¶  The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
30  This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
31  And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
32  And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
33  And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him,

the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

 Acts 19:1 ¶  And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2  He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3  And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
4  Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5  When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6  And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

  The Day I Publicly Accepted Christ As My Savior, And  Was Water Baptized, And Then, Later That Evening I was Given The Gift Of Speaking In Tongues, That Is, In Speaking In An Unknown Language.

I repented, accepted Jesus into my heart and life, as my personal Lord and Savor. Then, I was watered baptized, in water by immersion, the standard Christian method, by the local pastor, as I was being immersed, he, the pastor, proclaimed to God the Father,- in obedience to the method prescribed by Him, the Father, through His Son, Jesus, when Jesus told His followers to go forth and to baptize- in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

My water baptism was symbolic of my submission to the words of Christ, within the Christian Bible. Furthermore, it was symbolic of the death to my old sin nature, and, with the coming up out of the waters, once again, a symbolic submission to the words of Christ, of being born again, by the Holy Spirit of God, through God’s eternal Grace and favor, that’s bestow on all, within our planet.

That night, on coming up out of Baptism’s grave, I was spiritually and supernaturally changed, by God the Father, through the Holy Spirit’s power. As Christ fatherhood was not through a human man, Christ’s human God-life was created and started by the Holy Spirit, coming upon Mary, the Mother of Jesus.

Likewise, such as I was inseminated  by the creative power of the Holy Spirit, which created with and within my own spirit, in the making of a new spirit, of being born again,  of being spiritually grafted in, to the Vine, and Christ being the Vine. 

That which subsequently came forth, –was what the Bible declares to all, that will repent, turn from all that detracts one from their submission to the Lord Jesus,as their own personal Lord and Saviour, and to put their trust in the Lord, Jesus, those that believe in, and on Him, this Christ, for the personal forgiveness of their sin’s.

And in doing so, gain the keys to their eternally secured future heavenly home.

As one continues in their on-going life’s acceptance and submission to God’s Holy Christian Bible.

The only true and inspired word for man from God. Man’s only salvation is through the Christ, which was, and is continually our hope and only salvation, as He, Jesus, now in His ascended state is sitting at the right hand of God the Father, who is continually interceding to Him, to the Father, on our behalf. 

Glory to Jesus! the Son of God. My Saviour. 

Later that evening, the church leaders, at this inter denominational church, prayed for me  to receive the Heavenly Gift of speaking in another language.  Yet, I had heard of this other heavenly Gift from God, I was excited, that I was being prayed for, to receive this heavenly gift. 

It’s obvious that there is nothing, that could be of any  greater, or more fulfilling as a heavenly Gift nor Greater, than that of "Salvation."

The gift of Salvation was given to me, that which was born on Calvary’s tree, was personalized for me this night, some 2000 plus years later, after Christ’s Ascension to heaven, that was the enabling factor for me. I could receive Christ’s actual Atonement, into my own actual life, by faith in my Lord Jesus.

There can be no greater gift from God the Father, than His Plan Of Atonement For all of Mankind! this Gift from God, to receive this other empowering Gift, after I was a saved, after I had accepted the Lord as my personal Lord and Savior.

Was simply another awesome experience for me that night, I had went up to the altar to pray, this altar was a half circle, with four or five steps up to the platform area, it was on these steps that I found myself, it was there, very softly I could hear those praying in other tongues, in another language very, very softly they prayed, and yet, it was as though it was being sung, a holy soft chant, in a loving reverential way, it was astounding to me, it was as though I was part of a chorus of heavenly worshiper’s calling to the Lord in perfect harmony, perfect exultation, perfect adoring praise.

Missionary Norman Oetker for Jesus… to continue to go forth in His Name, bringing Salvation’s message to the Lost of this world. To go any and everywhere, as my Lord so shall direct, He is my God, and I, Norman Oetker, will stand before the congregation and praise His Name for He, and "He" alone, is worthy to be Praised.  

I’ve decided to post, from the Assemblies of God, their positional papers on the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, so please look in the column to the left of articles written on my spaces.com page.

Why I say I’m a Trinity Pentecostal Christian Believer? MEO L.A.M. Norman Oetker Missionary "The Light Amidst the Mong/MEO" Hmong Thailand, Reynosa Mexico, English Class, St. Charles Missouri US.